Message from @Perpetual Moral Imbalance
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the first condition for a meritocracy is everyone starting from the same baseline which is incredibly false about the global capitalist world.
it's incredibly false for even a 'western' nation
it is however *not hard* to rise above from poverty in the US
assuming you know what you're doing
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could easily work for say, a year or two saving up cash
then use said savings to go to something as simple as trade school
yes because people working multiple jobs aren't 'working hard enough' and are 'lazy'.
just like that you have access to a job that gives decent pay
Save money for trade school
no, people working multiple jobs clearly *don't* know what they're doing
Which isn’t *super* expensive
yes because the US doesn't have the lowest or one of the lowest social mobility ratings of any OECD country
if they knew what they were doing they would've gotten schooling and had a better *singular* job
this doesn't change that it's actually really easy to get a good job
an actual economist >paul krugman studied this
the US has high income inequality
because shit social mobility
and i disagree, it's actually really easy to acquire a good job
work a "low-tier" (if you'd call it that) job for a couple or more years saving cash for trade school
then *attend* trade school
then use your trade school education to get a good job
"I disagree"
**disagreeing against clear statistics**
provide counter-statistics
if you call a blog from 2012 statistics
*sure*
yes because income inequality sudden radically change in 6 years
oh wait it hasn't for the people outside the 1%
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are you saying it's not easy to get a job?
>work 1-3 years
>save as much money as can from said working
>attend trade school
well you argued it was 'easy' to get out of poverty in the US
I countered with statistics
compared to say Norway
it's incredibly hard to get out of poverty in the US
i argue it's easy to get a well-paying job which could place you to the middle class
hence the incredible income inequality of the US
Its been like since the 70s that wages have barely moved
You'd almost think the programs employed to help impoverished people encourages the move
You have huge welfare cliffs
```The United States is one of the world’s richest, most powerful and technologically innovative countries; but neither its wealth nor its power nor its technology is being harnessed to address the situation in which 40 million people continue to live in poverty.```
```The youth poverty rate in the United States is the highest across the OECD with one quarter of youth living in poverty compared to less than 14% across the OECD.
The Stanford Center on Inequality and Poverty ranks the most well-off countries in terms of labor markets, poverty, safety net, wealth inequality, and economic mobility. The US comes in last of the top 10 most well-off countries, and 18th amongst the top 21.
In the OECD the US ranks 35th out of 37 in terms of poverty and inequality.
According to the World Income Inequality Database, the US has the highest Gini rate (measuring inequality) of all Western Countries
The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality characterizes the US as “a clear and constant outlier in the child poverty league.” US child poverty rates are the highest amongst the six richest countries – Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden and Norway.
About 55.7% of the U.S. voting-age population cast ballots in the 2016 presidential election. In the OECD, the U.S. placed 28th in voter turnout, compared with an OECD average of 75%. Registered voters represent a much smaller share of potential voters in the U.S. than just about any other OECD country. Only about 64% of the U.S. voting-age population (and 70% of voting-age citizens) was registered in 2016, compared with 91% in Canada (2015) and the UK (2016), 96% in Sweden (2014), and nearly 99% in Japan (2014).```
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=22533