Message from @Perpetual Moral Imbalance

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2018-06-07 13:47:49 UTC  

Which isn’t *super* expensive

yes because the US doesn't have the lowest or one of the lowest social mobility ratings of any OECD country

2018-06-07 13:47:52 UTC  

if they knew what they were doing they would've gotten schooling and had a better *singular* job

2018-06-07 13:48:33 UTC  

this doesn't change that it's actually really easy to get a good job

an actual economist >paul krugman studied this

the US has high income inequality

because shit social mobility

2018-06-07 13:49:12 UTC  

and i disagree, it's actually really easy to acquire a good job

2018-06-07 13:49:28 UTC  

work a "low-tier" (if you'd call it that) job for a couple or more years saving cash for trade school

2018-06-07 13:49:31 UTC  

then *attend* trade school

2018-06-07 13:49:38 UTC  

then use your trade school education to get a good job

"I disagree"

**disagreeing against clear statistics**

provide counter-statistics

2018-06-07 13:50:12 UTC  

if you call a blog from 2012 statistics

2018-06-07 13:50:13 UTC  

*sure*

yes because income inequality sudden radically change in 6 years

oh wait it hasn't for the people outside the 1%

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2018-06-07 13:52:11 UTC  

are you saying it's not easy to get a job?
>work 1-3 years
>save as much money as can from said working
>attend trade school

well you argued it was 'easy' to get out of poverty in the US
I countered with statistics

compared to say Norway

it's incredibly hard to get out of poverty in the US

2018-06-07 13:53:23 UTC  

i argue it's easy to get a well-paying job which could place you to the middle class

hence the incredible income inequality of the US

2018-06-07 13:55:02 UTC  

Its been like since the 70s that wages have barely moved

2018-06-07 13:55:09 UTC  

You'd almost think the programs employed to help impoverished people encourages the move

2018-06-07 13:55:45 UTC  

You have huge welfare cliffs

```The United States is one of the world’s richest, most powerful and technologically innovative countries; but neither its wealth nor its power nor its technology is being harnessed to address the situation in which 40 million people continue to live in poverty.```
```The youth poverty rate in the United States is the highest across the OECD with one quarter of youth living in poverty compared to less than 14% across the OECD.
The Stanford Center on Inequality and Poverty ranks the most well-off countries in terms of labor markets, poverty, safety net, wealth inequality, and economic mobility. The US comes in last of the top 10 most well-off countries, and 18th amongst the top 21.
In the OECD the US ranks 35th out of 37 in terms of poverty and inequality.
According to the World Income Inequality Database, the US has the highest Gini rate (measuring inequality) of all Western Countries
The Stanford Center on Poverty and Inequality characterizes the US as “a clear and constant outlier in the child poverty league.” US child poverty rates are the highest amongst the six richest countries – Canada, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Sweden and Norway.
About 55.7% of the U.S. voting-age population cast ballots in the 2016 presidential election. In the OECD, the U.S. placed 28th in voter turnout, compared with an OECD average of 75%. Registered voters represent a much smaller share of potential voters in the U.S. than just about any other OECD country. Only about 64% of the U.S. voting-age population (and 70% of voting-age citizens) was registered in 2016, compared with 91% in Canada (2015) and the UK (2016), 96% in Sweden (2014), and nearly 99% in Japan (2014).```
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=22533

"the us is easy to climb out of poverty"

**UN's report on poverty in the US says how persistent it is**

yeah ok

2018-06-07 13:56:19 UTC  

is it hard to save money from a basic job?

2018-06-07 13:56:37 UTC  

Yeah

you make it sound as if 'saving money from a basic job' is the magic recipe to make people climb out of poverty.

2018-06-07 13:56:50 UTC  

What's a basic job pay

2018-06-07 13:56:55 UTC  

Plenty work full time on welfare

but people are working 2 or 3 jobs to just make end's meet

2018-06-07 13:57:07 UTC  

min wage is average 7.50

2018-06-07 13:57:21 UTC  

a mcdonalds worker who puts in their hours could make 13k annually