Message from @erin<3

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you make it sound like a ridiculous thing but capitalism wouldn't work without it being globalized

so are you saying

capitalism is impossible

there is no 'capitalism' in one country

2018-06-15 21:43:24 UTC  

if you scroll up, the only parts where i've mentioned capitalism is in a theoretical society which a communist society is invaded by a capitalist one

2018-06-15 21:43:34 UTC  

however what you've said is communism is unachievable if it is not global

but that's not the condition communism arises

2018-06-15 21:43:38 UTC  

thank you for proving my point

2018-06-15 21:43:40 UTC  

Capitalism only works in theory

the condition communism arises is when the global socialist movement has destroyed capitalist states

and recreated the society of old

2018-06-15 21:44:05 UTC  

Perpetual Moral Imbalance - Today at 5:42 PM
is communism achievable if it is not global?
[CPGSA] Advocatus Diaboli - Today at 5:42 PM
no
[CPGSA] GoodVenerisLeftside - Today at 5:42 PM
that's not communism

it's akin to asking something like saying

"is it possible for labour theory of value to be valid if i create something without labour."

which i've had someone literally say to me before

it's a pointless question

because it doesn't account for why, how, or from where the communist society arises

2018-06-15 21:45:21 UTC  

if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable?

your point is reductionist, you're not debating in good faith

2018-06-15 21:45:42 UTC  

i've yet to recieve a straight answer

2018-06-15 21:45:44 UTC  

if the entire world is not capitalist, is capitalism achievable? @Perpetual Moral Imbalance

2018-06-15 21:45:46 UTC  

you're talking about a single country that turned communist, i.e. without state, military and police, attacked by a capitalist nation, and when we say that's impossible, you say 'thanks for proving my point'

because it's reductionist

and i've explained **why** it's a pointless, and reductionist argument

2018-06-15 21:46:14 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

please read the context of the discussion before jumping in

2018-06-15 21:46:17 UTC  

What's going on lads?

2018-06-15 21:46:21 UTC  

if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable? [2]

2018-06-15 21:46:31 UTC  

i got them to admit that communism is unachievable scipio

2018-06-15 21:46:39 UTC  

*if not globally

2018-06-15 21:46:40 UTC  

@Perpetual Moral Imbalance don't ignore my question

2018-06-15 21:46:45 UTC  

erin are you blind

2018-06-15 21:46:51 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

2018-06-15 21:46:51 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

2018-06-15 21:46:51 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

2018-06-15 21:46:51 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

2018-06-15 21:46:52 UTC  

yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally

2018-06-15 21:46:52 UTC  

just a little

we pointed out that your argument ignores the actual point of 'historical materialism'

2018-06-15 21:46:54 UTC  

are you not seeing the yes

2018-06-15 21:47:06 UTC  

might've missed it, there's a lot going on lmao, sorry