Message from @erin<3
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the condition communism arises is when the global socialist movement has destroyed capitalist states
and recreated the society of old
Perpetual Moral Imbalance - Today at 5:42 PM
is communism achievable if it is not global?
[CPGSA] Advocatus Diaboli - Today at 5:42 PM
no
[CPGSA] GoodVenerisLeftside - Today at 5:42 PM
that's not communism
it's akin to asking something like saying
"is it possible for labour theory of value to be valid if i create something without labour."
which i've had someone literally say to me before
it's a pointless question
because it doesn't account for why, how, or from where the communist society arises
if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable?
your point is reductionist, you're not debating in good faith
i've yet to recieve a straight answer
if the entire world is not capitalist, is capitalism achievable? @Perpetual Moral Imbalance
you're talking about a single country that turned communist, i.e. without state, military and police, attacked by a capitalist nation, and when we say that's impossible, you say 'thanks for proving my point'
because it's reductionist
and i've explained **why** it's a pointless, and reductionist argument
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
please read the context of the discussion before jumping in
What's going on lads?
if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable? [2]
i got them to admit that communism is unachievable scipio
*if not globally
nope
erin are you blind
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
yes, and at no point have i made claims to state capitalism is only possible if globally
just a little
we pointed out that your argument ignores the actual point of 'historical materialism'
are you not seeing the yes
might've missed it, there's a lot going on lmao, sorry
meanwhile, i've not gotten a yes/no from karde
if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable?
@Perpetual Moral Imbalance your missing the point, the question is irrelevant to the argument
Capitalism relies on manipulating the working class of other, generally non capitalist nations. I would argue a global capitalism would not prevail.
it doesn't **show** communism to be impossible
i'd appreciate a yes or no, and a follow-up to explain your point
if the entire world is not communist, is communism achievable?
that's a huge leap in logic
you made