anyone who blocks someone else still reads all the messages lmao

im pretty late in the conversation but

in the US, liberals are considered the embodyment of the left wing

just as convervatives are considered the embodyment of the right wing

@Perpetual Moral Imbalance I got that from
```Other words, such as “liberal,” had
been originally identified with laissez-faire libertarians, but had
been captured by left-wing statists```
but it still trips over the fundamental fallacy that statism =/= anti-capitalist and assumes the state cannot be used as a tool bythe capitalists. Which is why i find it dumb when Americans attack me for pointing out the democrats are 'right-wing.' I'm using a broader, more useful political spectrum that's based in the reality that something like 'state monopoly capitalism' exists.

tbf its under democrats that corporate america is going to establish its hegemony

^HOLY CRAP THIS

I mean, both parties play their role.

I mean democrats can at least **make concessions to the working class**

but we can see those concessions are either too little

or ineffective

or will be revoked

by 'neoliberalism'

>democrats
>helping working class
🤔

They usually make """"""""concessions""""""""

im not sure if their preference for Hillary over Bernie means theyve made a switch to neocon foreign policy or not

@Perpetual Moral Imbalance you read that wrong
I said *make concessions*
that doesn't mean overall *help the working class*

they're not quite as bold faced lies as the shit the Republicans offer

hillary is an imperialist literally look what she did to libya

but the neocon right is really afraid of whats happening to the GOP

right, semantics aside

mfw nancy pelosi called $1000 crumbs

the neocon right A.K.A. the intellectual right-wingers

@🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼 The working class of the USA***

following tax cuts granting up to $1000 more into middle-class paychecks

tax cuts undermine the social democrat system that is meant to keep the working class in check

whoa so the republicans did something right

1111

So fucking stupid

so on one hand 🤔 that means they'll be more pushed to 'anti-capitalist' sude.
on the other hand 🤔 i want my free healthcare.

At the very least the Neocons give the socdems something to pretend to do

tbh the democratic party is just taking the piss at this point

the republicans, specifically a globalist named Cohen wrote that bill and it long term is a corporate tax break

and the Neocons can ultimately lose the fight

can't get over the fact they lost the election, which was supposedly a 9-to-1 favor of clinton

lmao

which allows the """left""" to feel like they're doing something

it doesnt relieve tax rates for the middle or lowest except temporarily i think

while the overton window ultimately stays in place

i think the entire dichotomy is changing

can we just take a moment and laugh at dems who said the election would be a hillary landslide