Message from @Scipio

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Nope lol

2018-06-16 22:27:33 UTC  

But they were just as expansionistic and power hungry as the US in other senses

Israel is imperialist palestinians are imperialized

2018-06-16 22:27:49 UTC  

I see

Uhh no. They were not it was all a reaction to capitalist encirlement

The USA always struck first to destroy the socialist movement and the USSR had to fight back accordingly. To call the USSR powrr hungry is to overlook that the US attempted to destroy it at every turn.

2018-06-16 22:29:22 UTC  

Karde (Good) denies everything that goes against the USSR.

2018-06-16 22:29:25 UTC  

So..

2018-06-16 22:29:28 UTC  

Of course, it was a two way street

2018-06-16 22:29:29 UTC  

You're not going to get far, Rainer.

2018-06-16 22:29:33 UTC  

But that's the thing

2018-06-16 22:29:40 UTC  

Nah I'm commie too actually

2018-06-16 22:29:43 UTC  

Wasn't the Winter War Imperialist?

2018-06-16 22:29:44 UTC  

._.

@Scipio you loser blocked me lol and still read my messages.

2018-06-16 22:29:49 UTC  

It was a territorial grab.

No because Finland had at first had a leftist movement that was crushed by Western intervention

2018-06-16 22:30:33 UTC  

I would expect starting a war over territory is an imperialist thing to do.

2018-06-16 22:30:49 UTC  

And the Finnish Leftists sided with the Finnish government in the Winter War.

2018-06-16 22:30:50 UTC  

So..

2018-06-16 22:30:53 UTC  

:/

2018-06-16 22:31:16 UTC  

The Soviets BELIEVED that the revolutionary Finns would side with them,

2018-06-16 22:31:17 UTC  

they didn't.

No starting a war against a state which has had western intervention right on your border is the issue.

2018-06-16 22:31:21 UTC  

They sided with the Finnish government.

So they werent very revolutionary?

Theyre the definition of reactionary socialist lol

2018-06-16 22:31:54 UTC  

Mate, the USSR invaded Finland for territory.

2018-06-16 22:31:57 UTC  

And thus is impieralist.

2018-06-16 22:32:00 UTC  

Imperialist*

Mate your deluded if you think capitalist encirlement doesnt exist

2018-06-16 22:32:23 UTC  

Your excuse of "muh western intervention" makes no fucking sense, are you saying that Western Intervention justifies all wars on Nations with Western Influence?

2018-06-16 22:32:34 UTC  

Fucking retard.

2018-06-16 22:33:33 UTC  

Neither of you is wrong tbh

2018-06-16 22:33:39 UTC  

it does

2018-06-16 22:33:47 UTC  

Your points don't exclude each other

@RainerRilke this radical centrism oml lol

2018-06-16 22:34:11 UTC  

Was the USSR imperalist? Hell yeah... Was it justified? Most probably so on various levels

2018-06-16 22:34:18 UTC  

you know, I'd not say that having a country that has been your enemy for 20 years and might have ties to your main enemy 30km away from your second most important city is a good thing