It was a territorial grab.

No because Finland had at first had a leftist movement that was crushed by Western intervention

I would expect starting a war over territory is an imperialist thing to do.

And the Finnish Leftists sided with the Finnish government in the Winter War.

So..

:/

The Soviets BELIEVED that the revolutionary Finns would side with them,

they didn't.

No starting a war against a state which has had western intervention right on your border is the issue.

They sided with the Finnish government.

So they werent very revolutionary?

Theyre the definition of reactionary socialist lol

Mate, the USSR invaded Finland for territory.

And thus is impieralist.

Imperialist*

Mate your deluded if you think capitalist encirlement doesnt exist

Your excuse of "muh western intervention" makes no fucking sense, are you saying that Western Intervention justifies all wars on Nations with Western Influence?

Yes

Fucking retard.

Back to @RainerRilke hey

Neither of you is wrong tbh

it does

Your points don't exclude each other

@RainerRilke this radical centrism oml lol

Was the USSR imperalist? Hell yeah... Was it justified? Most probably so on various levels

you know, I'd not say that having a country that has been your enemy for 20 years and might have ties to your main enemy 30km away from your second most important city is a good thing

It's not that hard to grasp

rainer is right

I'd agree.

Human history is littered with atrocities and paved with injustice

Normal behaviour for humans.

:/

Fucking mad bastards.

We allow us to forget innumerable accounts of past historical nations and figures because we understand their context but people don't usually give that benefit to socialist states

Which is illogical really

I'd disagree out of principle that im not a centrist. USSR isnt imperialist as it isnt using expansionist growth to feed a state monopoly capitalist system but to defend the socialist revolution against those who want to crush it.

Might be a side effect of all the anti-communist propaganda during the Cold War

Uhhhhhhh russia has really bad bread though

dosent do well with a sandwhich

Bruv

Bruv’s got a point