I'll give them one thing, though. Their delusional pride for the shithole of a country they live in is quite admirable. Erdogan has done a good job of cementing this sort of nearly religious bond with his people which really allows them to take a lot of pride in their national character. In the US, yes we're richer and more prosperous, but there are also many more malefactors and fifth columns all over the place tearing down the traditions and working against our interests. If our people were as dedicated to America as much as the Turks to Turkey, we would be in a much better place in terms of quality of life and social trust. Although, one thing about Turkey is they are mostly ethnically Turkish, which allows them to have a united identity along with that Ottoman meme, while America is factionalizing rapidly and everyone's out to get each other.
