And other than that?

Do you know how they make sure that you don't expose more elite dogma?

I mean come on

As you climb the ranks?

How do you think they maintain secrecy, Ghawk?

And tell me: what happens when people disclose this dogma?

For every secret society which has survived and been stable there is an insurance policy against people divulging key Lodge secrets.

What do you think that is?

You think the fact that every country has banned freemasonry at one point or another is a complete coincidence?

No it's hysteria

Just like how people blame the jews for stuff which is absolutely irrational and if you do that you're a bigot

@Rabbi Akeldama

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morgan_(anti-Mason)

This is what happens.

"Charitable" "Christian"

So you know what they do

And yet you continue

Also, I like how the Americans shit on the freemasons, but they fail to realize the founding fathers and a few presidents were Masons.

A band of murderers, and that's only what you know

If anything, they will just expel me from the lodge

yeah also most of the secrets have been leaked by now

Absolutely.

You just need to look them up.

But people don't do the research.

I am sure they are out there. If the Mormon temple ceremonies are out there than just about anything is.

And believe the organisation is precisely what it depicts itself to be.

Because they're insecure, rootless and desperate for fraternity.

These are who esotericism appeals to.

"Orthodox Church in America declares it to be forbidden to be a freemason."

@Ghawk Which is it Ghawk?

"Church of Greece forbade all church members from being Masons."

Church of Greece

Mind you the church I attend is under Constantinople

Doesn't the Orthodox Church itself have fraternal organizations you can join?

And they have had a few freemasons.

And no it does not.

Only Russia and Greece forbid it, the other Orthodox Churches have never said anything about it. If two churches say something, it doesn;t apply to the whole Orthodox church.

That only happens if Constantinople says something and even then, a self-governing church like Russia. Romania, Greece, Albania, Cyprus, Georgia, Jerusalem, Poland, Czech, and Antioch can all say piss off.

Then the Orientals would have to take a stance since they are not in communication with Eastern Orthodox Churches.

Freemasonry is open to men of any faith, but religion may not be discussed at Masonic meetings. The Supreme Being. Masons believe that there is one God and that people employ many different ways to seek, and to express what they know of God.