Message from @Ghawk

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2018-09-20 01:58:54 UTC  

Taking oaths too.

2018-09-20 01:59:06 UTC  

I took tutoring lessons from them when I was a kid.

2018-09-20 01:59:08 UTC  

from what you can say

2018-09-20 01:59:14 UTC  

And other than that?

2018-09-20 01:59:17 UTC  

Do you know how they make sure that you don't expose more elite dogma?

2018-09-20 01:59:19 UTC  

I mean come on

2018-09-20 01:59:27 UTC  

As you climb the ranks?

2018-09-20 01:59:37 UTC  

How do you think they maintain secrecy, Ghawk?

2018-09-20 01:59:53 UTC  

And tell me: what happens when people disclose this dogma?

2018-09-20 02:00:28 UTC  

For every secret society which has survived and been stable there is an insurance policy against people divulging key Lodge secrets.

2018-09-20 02:00:32 UTC  

What do you think that is?

2018-09-20 02:01:28 UTC  

You think the fact that every country has banned freemasonry at one point or another is a complete coincidence?

2018-09-20 02:01:37 UTC  

No it's hysteria

2018-09-20 02:01:56 UTC  

Just like how people blame the jews for stuff which is absolutely irrational and if you do that you're a bigot

2018-09-20 02:01:58 UTC  
2018-09-20 02:02:05 UTC  

This is what happens.

2018-09-20 02:02:17 UTC  

"Charitable" "Christian"

2018-09-20 02:02:24 UTC  

So you know what they do

2018-09-20 02:02:28 UTC  

And yet you continue

2018-09-20 02:02:39 UTC  

Also, I like how the Americans shit on the freemasons, but they fail to realize the founding fathers and a few presidents were Masons.

2018-09-20 02:02:44 UTC  

A band of murderers, and that's only what you know

2018-09-20 02:02:56 UTC  

If anything, they will just expel me from the lodge

2018-09-20 02:03:53 UTC  

yeah also most of the secrets have been leaked by now

2018-09-20 02:04:19 UTC  

Absolutely.

2018-09-20 02:04:25 UTC  

You just need to look them up.

2018-09-20 02:04:33 UTC  

But people don't do the research.

2018-09-20 02:04:48 UTC  

I am sure they are out there. If the Mormon temple ceremonies are out there than just about anything is.

2018-09-20 02:04:49 UTC  

And believe the organisation is precisely what it depicts itself to be.

2018-09-20 02:05:11 UTC  

Because they're insecure, rootless and desperate for fraternity.

2018-09-20 02:05:26 UTC  

These are who esotericism appeals to.

2018-09-20 02:06:10 UTC  

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2018-09-20 02:06:40 UTC  

"Orthodox Church in America declares it to be forbidden to be a freemason."

2018-09-20 02:06:55 UTC  

@Ghawk Which is it Ghawk?

2018-09-20 02:07:10 UTC  

"Church of Greece forbade all church members from being Masons."

2018-09-20 02:07:39 UTC  

Church of Greece

2018-09-20 02:07:54 UTC  

Mind you the church I attend is under Constantinople

2018-09-20 02:08:00 UTC  

Doesn't the Orthodox Church itself have fraternal organizations you can join?

2018-09-20 02:08:04 UTC  

And they have had a few freemasons.

2018-09-20 02:08:08 UTC  

And no it does not.

2018-09-20 02:09:02 UTC  

Only Russia and Greece forbid it, the other Orthodox Churches have never said anything about it. If two churches say something, it doesn;t apply to the whole Orthodox church.