Message from @[Lex]

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2018-09-12 23:13:46 UTC  

And Georgia only voted +5 for Trump.

2018-09-12 23:13:51 UTC  

Yeah, and then they elected Goldwater as Senator. Oh yeah, and he was Senator there before that, too.

2018-09-12 23:13:54 UTC  

So what?

2018-09-12 23:14:05 UTC  

It's projected to be plurality black by 2050 and blacks are a high turnout group.

2018-09-12 23:14:16 UTC  

The point is that Georgia being a gubernatorial tossup isn't strange.

2018-09-12 23:14:28 UTC  

Esp. when that candidate is a black woman running on a gibs platform.

2018-09-12 23:14:34 UTC  

With Stacey on the ballot, yes it is.

2018-09-12 23:15:00 UTC  

ESPECIALLY when it's the midterms and a GOP is in control of the presidency.

2018-09-12 23:15:04 UTC  

It doesn't make sense with historical Southern trends.

2018-09-12 23:15:06 UTC  

All trends favour a tossup.

2018-09-12 23:15:14 UTC  

It makes sense because of demographic change.

2018-09-12 23:15:37 UTC  

Southerners tend to prefer candidates who are socially conservative.

2018-09-12 23:15:40 UTC  

And energised Democratic turnout across the country, routinely achieving the highest turnout in history.

2018-09-12 23:15:56 UTC  

Or fiscally conservative, or both

2018-09-12 23:16:00 UTC  

Virginia is considered "Southern" also.

2018-09-12 23:16:03 UTC  

What happened to it?

2018-09-12 23:16:06 UTC  

It changed demographically.

2018-09-12 23:16:09 UTC  

and also Southerners prefer white Democrats

2018-09-12 23:16:22 UTC  

+ Georgia isn't like Alabama or Louisiana.

2018-09-12 23:16:27 UTC  

Virginia has tons of suburbs of Washington DC filled with federal agents.

2018-09-12 23:16:30 UTC  

It's more urbanised.

2018-09-12 23:16:38 UTC  

I'm thinking of North Carolina and Florida too.

2018-09-12 23:16:58 UTC  

Even Florida doesn't elect anything worse than a moderate Democrat

2018-09-12 23:16:58 UTC  

FL also is a tossup or do you think it's a shoe-in for DeSantis too?

2018-09-12 23:17:11 UTC  

Because it's NOT.

2018-09-12 23:17:17 UTC  

I marked it as a tilt.

2018-09-12 23:17:22 UTC  

These are highly competitive races now.

2018-09-12 23:17:32 UTC  

That's what "tilt" means

2018-09-12 23:17:42 UTC  

you can't even justify a tilt

2018-09-12 23:17:50 UTC  

no data supports it

2018-09-12 23:17:53 UTC  

just your hunch

2018-09-12 23:21:13 UTC  

Primary polling suggests that DeSantis will do well in many Hispanic areas where Republicans have historically won majorities among nonwhites/Hispanics as recently as the latest Presidential election.

2018-09-12 23:23:37 UTC  

And GOP primary turnout in 2012 was much higher than the Democrats and yet they lost.

2018-09-12 23:23:48 UTC  

Primary turnout isn't a very effective predictor in Florida.

2018-09-12 23:24:05 UTC  

+ Hispanics tend to have very low levels of turnout in primaries.

2018-09-12 23:24:48 UTC  

Blacks remember

2018-09-12 23:24:48 UTC  

+ blacks are at very high turnout levels rn and most FL Democrats are mobilised. I don't think the primary turnout has ever been this close between Democrats and Republicans.

2018-09-12 23:24:56 UTC  

Georgia is only 53% White

2018-09-12 23:25:28 UTC  

Georgia also has a growing Hispanic population also.

2018-09-12 23:25:44 UTC  

>primary turnout in 2012

2018-09-12 23:26:02 UTC  

The point was to suggest that primary turnout is not an effective predictor.