that's my point

also, winning NY, MA, CA is also not impossible, but that's another debate

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 It's about visibility. These people don't know who Freitas even is yet, he's a newcomer. The thing is, I see potential. The primaries aren't coming there for 3 months and then 5 months for the General election.

Your issue is you see the numbers but not the people. There's a potential, a way of speaking, an appeal that can reach conservatives, libertarians, moderates, hell, maybe a few anti-war liberals. You take Tim Kaine and Nick Freitas and put them on a debate stage and it'll be absolutely no question. Corey Stewart and the others in the primary already has an established profile, Freitas was just a state legislator, but we've got to give him time to get momentum. He's bar none the most electable one, the most likable one, and he's not cucked.

@FLanon people = numbers

Right now people don't know who Freitas is, that'll build. Kaine was the head of the fucking DNC and candidate for Vice President, recognizability is the most important part of this stage.

Put them head to head, and I swear, he'd win in Massachusetts.

Just compare their faces for fucks sake

@Deleted User @FLanon whitepill me on this

>Trusting polls ever

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 I can't, that's an issue

dude, this isn't a poll

A valid one

these are _results_

Lmao numbers ARE NOT the same thing as people

dafuq

yes, they are

1 vote = 1 person

But, I'm saying, there is a potential I see that with the right exposure, Freitas can win handily in Virginia, the Texas stuff is an issue and I'll agree there.

here's the thing

if Republicans are struggling in _Texas_,

how can we expect them to compete in other states?

You could draw it down to the established politicians not having major results in the primaries in Texas because they're popular enough to where people may not see a reason to vote for them, competition may have a larger role in this than popularity.

It does signified a depressed turnout issue, I agree, which we will need to absolutely get solved. But as it stands, we can't limit ourselves.

Just because the results in Texas right now aren't great doesn't mean we have to stop the buck here, no, we need a front wherever possible. If we stop the buck at Texas, they'll win handily because we'll let them, not because it's impossible from the beginning.

That is absolutely the wrong way to look at this, NEVER get demotivated, then these elections will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you give up and say "what's the point, they'll win" then they'll win.

Anyone anywhere can compete, if they're strong enough, if that weren't the case, then all these deep blue states wouldn't have any R governors at all. It's a different office but the same logic applies.

not saying we give up,

but,

the GOP has a turnout problem,

and it has had a turnout problem since after November 8th, 2016

Early voting always favors Dems.

there are no indicators that that issue is going away

@Pielover19 not in Texas

this is the first year in Texas that the majority of primary voters are Dems

Plus, competitive races draw more voters, and the Dem races are more competitive.

You are saying this to excuse the idea that "Freitas will never win". No, no concession can be made.

The real election is tomorrow, though, right?

*Primary