Message from @Pielover19

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2018-03-14 22:09:52 UTC  

that's why they can learn the wrong lessons and be overconfident, stretching themselves far too thin, trying to win too many races at once

2018-03-14 22:10:12 UTC  

It's often a team effort into which significant financial resources are dumped. Hillary allocated MILLIONS of dollars into third-party organisations tasked with discovering dirt on Trump.

2018-03-14 22:10:30 UTC  

Most of which was unsuccessful beyond "grab them by the pussy" and so forth.

2018-03-14 22:10:40 UTC  

Not to mention the whole Steele doc situation

2018-03-14 22:10:45 UTC  

^

2018-03-14 22:10:58 UTC  

Though admittedly that was subsequent to his election.

2018-03-14 22:11:15 UTC  

But indeed that was discovered by Clinton's operatives.

2018-03-14 22:11:48 UTC  

Wasn’t most of the document proven false?

2018-03-14 22:12:42 UTC  

It was demonstrated to be a significantly unreliable dossier and in some cases, demonstrably false.

2018-03-14 22:13:10 UTC  

But some of the contents are simply UNPROVEN. But almost certainly inaccurate.

2018-03-14 22:13:33 UTC  

Right, I wonder how many people still believe it because saying a British spy discovered it sounds really official an nonpartisan

2018-03-14 22:19:01 UTC  
2018-03-14 22:19:12 UTC  

the problem in PA18 was not turnout
it was turnover
a majority a Trump's voters in this district left their homes to vote
and they didn't vote for GOP this time

2018-03-14 22:19:44 UTC  

you need to remember a majority of registered voters in PA18 are Democrats

2018-03-14 22:20:26 UTC  

they abandoned Trump

2018-03-14 22:23:16 UTC  

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 have you considered that they didn't 'abandon' Trump

2018-03-14 22:23:21 UTC  

but just preferred Lamb to Saccone

2018-03-14 22:23:24 UTC  

because of certain stances

2018-03-14 22:23:27 UTC  

and character appeal

2018-03-14 22:23:42 UTC  

and are still intending to vote for Trump again in 2020

2018-03-14 22:23:46 UTC  

I agree with Red Storm.

2018-03-14 22:24:59 UTC  

I have no reason to believe they won't vote Trump in 2020.

2018-03-14 22:25:14 UTC  

Lamb is a great candidate, and some voters will think "Well, Lamb is basically a Republican, and he looks good, so I'll vote for him!"

2018-03-14 22:25:38 UTC  

But this is undoubtedly a continuation of a significant leftward trend among voting patterns.

2018-03-14 22:25:43 UTC  

Trump's approval in this district is 49-49

2018-03-14 22:26:14 UTC  

some polls,

2018-03-14 22:26:14 UTC  

It's all a matter of his approval being HIGHER than the next Democratic presidential candidate.

2018-03-14 22:26:26 UTC  

should it be 53%, so there is that 3 point MOE

2018-03-14 22:27:03 UTC  

If they run Oprah, Kamala Harris, Cory Booker, Bernie Sanders or most of the individuals on the ballot for 2020 they'll lose to Trump.

2018-03-14 22:27:17 UTC  

It'll take a very unique, moderate, white candidate to successfully court this district.

2018-03-14 22:27:19 UTC  

but there is no question, Trump's approval is weak in a lot of these White Working Class parts of the country that swung for him in 2016

2018-03-14 22:29:23 UTC  

Honestly, I don't trust the polls.

2018-03-14 22:29:49 UTC  

Even the most "reliable" ones were off by huge margins.

2018-03-14 22:30:40 UTC  

@[Lex] @Pielover19 If the GOP is going to survive, it's going to have to adopt strong measures of support for Working Class Whites. That means stopping immigration - legal & illegal, but it also means ensuring OSHA, WC, Pensions, even though I am against welfare as a general rule.

2018-03-14 22:30:48 UTC  

I might sound like a faggot asking this but what is the actual practicable approach to red storm

2018-03-14 22:31:00 UTC  

Button Mash is right.

2018-03-14 22:33:05 UTC  

@🎃Boo-ton🎃 I agree with you. Debt is already impossible to repay due to the federal reserve system existing as it does. We must make concessions relating to public finance in order to restore stability to demographics.

2018-03-14 22:33:10 UTC  

@a.narchist Great question!!!

2018-03-14 22:33:21 UTC  

so, do you keep track of the /rsg/ threads on /pol/

2018-03-14 22:33:45 UTC  

I don't actually I'm not too active on chan

2018-03-14 22:34:47 UTC  

@[Lex] no offense to the midwestern white working class voters, but they are too dumb to understand that the Federal Reserve has tied our nation down into debt