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Why did Obama go to Ohio?

he's using his time to campaign for the democrats now

and ohio is one of the competitive areas

I don't think he realises he may very well have more of an adverse effect than not.

to be fair it's possible he gets some low info voters and minorities to turn out

But it’s retarded that he did it

So supposedly I have the same political position as a NatSoc on the political compass. Does anyone here perhaps consider themselves one? I'd like to see if there are similarities/differences, I've never really looked into NatSoc.

And I'm not a fan of socialism.

@Snoipah there are many NatSocs here

@Snoipah NatSoc isn't socialism as its conceived in the modern world.

It's less Marxian and more Prussian.

Oswald Spengler spoke of this.

I've never met someone with many similarities to my political opinion and I'm curious if NatSoc is.

Socialism under Nazi Germany effectively extended to basic worker rights, unemployment insurance and healthcare for the working poor.

^^^

Hitler privatised MUCH more than he nationalised.

Hitler was actually a good leader

You say that and instinctively I wait for someone to harass you.

National "socialism" effectively extended to ambitious infrastructural investment and very minor welfare allowances for the working poor the injured from WW1 and widows.

Even though I have not heard a explanation as to how Germany turned into such a superpower from being such a weak country while not saying Hitler was a good leader, at least in that aspect.

State control over the economy was significantly narrower than the modern American state.

I'm not a huge history buff but I hear more about how hes gay than how Germany became so strong.

He devoted only four years (1939–43) to full-time activity in the RSHA, for in 1943, in addition to his other jobs, he became a deputy director general in the Reich Ministry of economic affairs.[3] He coordinated plans to rebuild the German economy after the war. Such planning for the post-war time was strictly forbidden, on one side. On the other side, Heinrich Himmler, who detested the state interventionist regime of Albert Speer as "totally bolshevik" and was himself hoping for a career in a militarily defeated Germany, protected the working group around Ohlendorf, Ludwig Erhard and other experts, who planned, e.g., how to introduce the new German currency Deutsche Mark. Ohlendorf himself spoke out for "active and courageous entrepreneurship", which was intended to replace bureaucratic state planning of the economy after the war.

Any significant management or planning of the economy was to be scrapped post-war.

Ohlendorf, Hitler, Himmler were all staunchly pro-market.

It's just their conception of "socialism" and "capitalism" are very different to the modern academic definitions of these concepts.

Kind of like how the germany democratic party today is actually right wing?

That's right.

They were also the first to establish workfare policies. Policies which are advocated by right wing parties today and lambasted by the Left as "slavery".

The only difference is that they didn't believe in financial free markets where Soros can manipulate your currency and economy or foreign nations manipulating your domestic economy through trade.

I've been pretty against most healthcare(save for government providing ems services) but "healthcare for the **working** poor" is pretty brilliant and something I could support if I put thought into it.

They were completely pro-market in terms of their vision of the German economy. Very pro-entrepreneur.

And pro-entrepreneur is how people take risks with their products, which increase innovation ect.

>Germany Democratic Party

You mean National Democratic Party?

One of the reasons for the Nazi privatization policy was to cement the partnership between the government and business interests.[47] Another reason was financial. As the Nazi government faced budget deficits due to its military spending, privatization was one of the methods it used to raise more funds.[48] Between the fiscal years 1934-35 and 1937-38, privatization represented 1.4 percent of the German government's revenues.[49] There was also an ideological motivation. Nazi ideology held entrepreneurship in high regard, and “private property was considered a precondition to developing the creativity of members of the German race in the best interest of the people. [50] The Nazi leadership believed that “private property itself provided important incentives to achieve greater cost consciousness, efficiency gains, and technical progress.” [51] Adolf Hitler used Social Darwinist arguments to support this stance, cautioning against “bureaucratic managing of the economy” that would preserve the weak and “represent a burden to the higher ability, industry and value.” [52]

I try to avoid learning too much about Germany because I don't like getting depressed,.

From what I can tell