Message from @[Lex]

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2018-09-14 20:58:14 UTC  

^^^^

2018-09-14 21:00:27 UTC  

making fat stacks aint autistic u lil shit

2018-09-14 21:11:32 UTC  

Mike is just a patrician political gamer.

2018-09-14 21:41:05 UTC  

Anyone online?

2018-09-14 21:43:29 UTC  

me

2018-09-14 21:43:43 UTC  

Hi

2018-09-14 21:54:48 UTC  

dont hate the player hate the game

2018-09-14 23:19:53 UTC  

Why did Obama go to Ohio?

2018-09-14 23:30:52 UTC  

he's using his time to campaign for the democrats now

2018-09-14 23:30:56 UTC  

and ohio is one of the competitive areas

2018-09-14 23:32:42 UTC  

I don't think he realises he may very well have more of an adverse effect than not.

2018-09-14 23:34:32 UTC  

to be fair it's possible he gets some low info voters and minorities to turn out

2018-09-14 23:37:08 UTC  

But it’s retarded that he did it

2018-09-15 00:55:11 UTC  

So supposedly I have the same political position as a NatSoc on the political compass. Does anyone here perhaps consider themselves one? I'd like to see if there are similarities/differences, I've never really looked into NatSoc.

2018-09-15 00:55:34 UTC  

And I'm not a fan of socialism.

2018-09-15 00:56:23 UTC  

@Snoipah there are many NatSocs here

2018-09-15 00:56:48 UTC  

@Snoipah NatSoc isn't socialism as its conceived in the modern world.

2018-09-15 00:56:58 UTC  

It's less Marxian and more Prussian.

2018-09-15 00:57:03 UTC  

Oswald Spengler spoke of this.

2018-09-15 00:57:21 UTC  

I've never met someone with many similarities to my political opinion and I'm curious if NatSoc is.

2018-09-15 00:57:27 UTC  

Socialism under Nazi Germany effectively extended to basic worker rights, unemployment insurance and healthcare for the working poor.

2018-09-15 00:57:32 UTC  

^^^

2018-09-15 00:57:45 UTC  

Hitler privatised MUCH more than he nationalised.

2018-09-15 00:57:56 UTC  

Hitler was actually a good leader

2018-09-15 00:59:24 UTC  

You say that and instinctively I wait for someone to harass you.

2018-09-15 00:59:56 UTC  

National "socialism" effectively extended to ambitious infrastructural investment and very minor welfare allowances for the working poor the injured from WW1 and widows.

2018-09-15 01:00:21 UTC  

Even though I have not heard a explanation as to how Germany turned into such a superpower from being such a weak country while not saying Hitler was a good leader, at least in that aspect.

2018-09-15 01:00:41 UTC  

State control over the economy was significantly narrower than the modern American state.

2018-09-15 01:01:07 UTC  

I'm not a huge history buff but I hear more about how hes gay than how Germany became so strong.

2018-09-15 01:01:23 UTC  

He devoted only four years (1939–43) to full-time activity in the RSHA, for in 1943, in addition to his other jobs, he became a deputy director general in the Reich Ministry of economic affairs.[3] He coordinated plans to rebuild the German economy after the war. Such planning for the post-war time was strictly forbidden, on one side. On the other side, Heinrich Himmler, who detested the state interventionist regime of Albert Speer as "totally bolshevik" and was himself hoping for a career in a militarily defeated Germany, protected the working group around Ohlendorf, Ludwig Erhard and other experts, who planned, e.g., how to introduce the new German currency Deutsche Mark. Ohlendorf himself spoke out for "active and courageous entrepreneurship", which was intended to replace bureaucratic state planning of the economy after the war.

2018-09-15 01:01:51 UTC  

Any significant management or planning of the economy was to be scrapped post-war.

2018-09-15 01:02:08 UTC  

Ohlendorf, Hitler, Himmler were all staunchly pro-market.

2018-09-15 01:02:28 UTC  

It's just their conception of "socialism" and "capitalism" are very different to the modern academic definitions of these concepts.

2018-09-15 01:02:55 UTC  

Kind of like how the germany democratic party today is actually right wing?

2018-09-15 01:03:00 UTC  

That's right.

2018-09-15 01:03:36 UTC  

They were also the first to establish workfare policies. Policies which are advocated by right wing parties today and lambasted by the Left as "slavery".

2018-09-15 01:04:42 UTC  

The only difference is that they didn't believe in financial free markets where Soros can manipulate your currency and economy or foreign nations manipulating your domestic economy through trade.

2018-09-15 01:04:44 UTC  

I've been pretty against most healthcare(save for government providing ems services) but "healthcare for the **working** poor" is pretty brilliant and something I could support if I put thought into it.

2018-09-15 01:05:11 UTC  

They were completely pro-market in terms of their vision of the German economy. Very pro-entrepreneur.

2018-09-15 01:05:36 UTC  

And pro-entrepreneur is how people take risks with their products, which increase innovation ect.

2018-09-15 01:05:38 UTC  

>Germany Democratic Party