Message from @Julien Blanc

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2018-09-23 21:30:00 UTC  

With 57 seats, we could repeal Obamacare with a real non skinny bill, we could pass 25 billion for wall funding, we could use the Nuclear option for The Goodlatte bill but in the senate and have up to 7 defections

2018-09-23 21:30:06 UTC  

I think the best hope is that We get a big surprise In October, and all 10 of the Democrats in Red States lose.

2018-09-23 21:30:43 UTC  

@FLanon Can a bill like the Goodlatte bill pass without 60 votes?

2018-09-23 21:31:01 UTC  

And by can I mean is it possible, even if theoretical

2018-09-23 21:31:10 UTC  

Like the leadership doesn't do it

2018-09-23 21:31:45 UTC  

If Trump put their heads in a vice

2018-09-23 21:32:20 UTC  

But he has to get the balls to do something like that in the first place.

2018-09-23 21:32:28 UTC  

Threaten their re-elections, stuff like that

2018-09-23 21:32:28 UTC  

If we get rid of all 10 of those Red State Democrat Senators, and just that, we will be fine

2018-09-23 21:32:50 UTC  

Because it means we will have 61 seats, and everything will be fine

2018-09-23 21:33:04 UTC  

primaries are over, so he can't really do that

2018-09-23 21:33:18 UTC  

waging a civil war against the GOPe is what Bannon tried

2018-09-23 21:33:19 UTC  

After the midterms

2018-09-23 21:33:20 UTC  

sadly that backfired

2018-09-23 21:33:34 UTC  

Well Trump has a lot more power among the GOP electorate than Bannon.

2018-09-23 21:34:28 UTC  

that's still risky. He needs the GOPe incumbents' votes. It's really risky to be so openly antagonistic against congressmen from your own party

2018-09-23 21:34:32 UTC  

And the entire 2016 primary season was a war against the GOPe.

2018-09-23 21:34:36 UTC  

He won.

2018-09-23 21:34:45 UTC  

Now he has the bully pulpit.

2018-09-23 21:34:55 UTC  

He's got to use it.

2018-09-23 21:35:03 UTC  

he wasn't the President in 2016

2018-09-23 21:35:11 UTC  

he wasn't focused on getting legislation passed

2018-09-23 21:35:15 UTC  

Exactly.

2018-09-23 21:35:22 UTC  

and to get legislation passed...you have to get along with GOPe incumbents

2018-09-23 21:35:24 UTC  

He wasn't the president, and he still beat them.

2018-09-23 21:35:34 UTC  

that's one of the main troubles of the Trump Presidency

2018-09-23 21:35:40 UTC  

He has to pull them in his direction.

2018-09-23 21:35:51 UTC  

Work with the GOPe? Or risk fighting them?

2018-09-23 21:36:00 UTC  

RS.

2018-09-23 21:36:12 UTC  

You saw that story about them dissing the idea of the wall.

2018-09-23 21:36:34 UTC  

campaigning for the Presidency is a different beast from having the Presidency

2018-09-23 21:36:39 UTC  

If he works with them, it will never be built and we'll be doomed to a few more years of tax cuts followed by a one-party state.

2018-09-23 21:36:58 UTC  

This is a hail mary, he has no other options if he actually wants to do something meanwhile with his presidency.

2018-09-23 21:37:00 UTC  

the best time for that would be early 2019

2018-09-23 21:37:02 UTC  

What do we do if we lose the House and Senate? Immigrate to Eastern Europe?

2018-09-23 21:37:16 UTC  

No.

2018-09-23 21:37:34 UTC  

Fuck that.

2018-09-23 21:37:46 UTC  

I'm not Polish.

2018-09-23 21:38:03 UTC  

So what do we do?

2018-09-23 21:38:48 UTC  

If we are going to become a One-Party State, what do we do? Rebel against them? You keep calling me stupid for wanting to rebel.

2018-09-23 21:39:05 UTC  

well, what did the left do when the GOP took the House in 2010