Message from @lancerelliott {CARTHAGE}

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2018-10-08 02:37:27 UTC  

The Nazi government took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible. [41] State ownership was to be avoided unless it was absolutely necessary for rearmament or the war effort, and even in those cases “the Reich often insisted on the inclusion in the contract of an option clause according to which the private firm operating the plant was entitled to purchase it.”[42] Companies privatized by the Nazis included the four major commercial banks in Germany, which had all come under public ownership during the prior years: Commerz– und Privatbank , Deutsche Bank und Disconto-Gesellschaft , Golddiskontbank and Dresdner Bank . [43][44] Also privatized were the Deutsche Reichsbahn (German Railways), at the time the largest single public enterprise in the world, the Vereinigte Stahlwerke A.G. (United Steelworks), the second largest joint-stock company in Germany (the largest was IG Farben) and Vereinigte Oberschlesische Hüttenwerke AG , a company controlling all of the metal production in the Upper Silesian coal and steel industry. The government also sold a number of shipbuilding companies, and enhanced private utilities at the expense of municipally owned utilities companies.[45] Additionally, the Nazis privatized some public services which had been previously provided by the government, especially social and labor-related services, and these were mainly taken over by organizations affiliated with the Nazi Party that could be trusted to apply Nazi racial policies.[46]

2018-10-08 02:37:37 UTC  

One of the reasons for the Nazi privatization policy was to cement the partnership between the government and business interests.[47] Another reason was financial. As the Nazi government faced budget deficits due to its military spending, privatization was one of the methods it used to raise more funds.[48] Between the fiscal years 1934-35 and 1937-38, privatization represented 1.4 percent of the German government's revenues.[49] There was also an ideological motivation. Nazi ideology held entrepreneurship in high regard, and “private property was considered a precondition to developing the creativity of members of the German race in the best interest of the people. [50] The Nazi leadership believed that “private property itself provided important incentives to achieve greater cost consciousness, efficiency gains, and technical progress.” [51] Adolf Hitler used Social Darwinist arguments to support this stance, cautioning against “bureaucratic managing of the economy” that would preserve the weak and “represent a burden to the higher ability, industry and value.” [52]

2018-10-08 02:45:19 UTC  

@lancerelliott {CARTHAGE} Also the guy in charge of the Economic policy of Nazi Germany was never a member of the NSDAP and was a member of the German Democratic Party a Classical Liberal party

2018-10-08 02:46:07 UTC  

ie he was more or less a Libertarian

2018-10-08 02:48:01 UTC  

@Walter Johnson He was only in charge prewar. It was Walther Funk and Albert Speer who forged the wartime economic policy of the Germany, and the atrocities that came with it.

2018-10-08 02:48:40 UTC  

He was the one who helped create Germany's economic recovery

2018-10-08 02:50:19 UTC  

I know of him. I was not aware some of his social stances were libertarian. I also know he gravley disapproved of Hitler's actions during the later parts of the war.

2018-10-08 02:50:41 UTC  

Either way, libertarians don't ally with those who would use state force to persecute, purge, displace, and otherwise ```violate the NApaPPPP!```

2018-10-08 02:51:24 UTC  

Yeah if I remeber he was part of some conspiracys against Hitler in the rank up to the war

2018-10-08 02:52:05 UTC  

He was part of a resistance group yes.

2018-10-08 02:52:11 UTC  

They never acheived signifigant sucess.

2018-10-08 02:52:19 UTC  

Its what saved him from hanging during the numeburg trials.

2018-10-08 02:56:13 UTC  

Vilfredo Pareto was also another Classical Liberal Economist who was a suppertor of Fasism because he thought it would bring his free market ideas

2018-10-08 02:58:11 UTC  

He thought wrong now did he.

2018-10-08 02:58:30 UTC  

@Walter Johnson You wanna talk about this in VC?

2018-10-08 02:59:09 UTC  

there are a bunch of people in VC so probably not

2018-10-08 02:59:24 UTC  

There is always private calls but alright.

2018-10-08 02:59:36 UTC  

So what label do you plant above your head, politically speaking?

2018-10-08 03:13:06 UTC  
2018-10-08 03:17:20 UTC  

@Julien Blanc have to be quiet, sorry. parents are sleeping.

2018-10-08 03:21:31 UTC  
2018-10-08 04:33:00 UTC  

What do you guys think of Patrick Little’s 2020 presidential run as a Democrat?

2018-10-08 04:46:28 UTC  

Pretty little of a run

2018-10-08 04:46:30 UTC  

Lol

2018-10-08 04:57:34 UTC  

@The Eternal Armenian it's a farce but it's entertaining

2018-10-08 04:59:48 UTC  

Would be great if a conservative outlet does the “Democrats are the real Nazis” bit when reporting on him and then the Dems have to disavow.

2018-10-08 04:59:52 UTC  

Would make for a fun shitshow.

2018-10-08 05:03:35 UTC  

@Julien Blanc May be worthwhile to invite a few of our most active members to participate on uselectionatlas.org

2018-10-08 05:06:11 UTC  

I'd love to see more diversity on there

2018-10-08 05:18:58 UTC  

Yeah

2018-10-08 05:19:06 UTC  

Come to Atlas

2018-10-08 05:35:02 UTC  

though practically speaking you won't want to have white nationalist members join Atlas, because that stuff does get censored there

2018-10-08 06:33:48 UTC  

Declassification details starting to leak.

The DOJ similarly tried to conceal embarrassing information contained within text messages between FBI "lovebirds" Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, which had nothing to do with national security.

Which raises the question of what the real reason was that it was hidden from public view. I think the answer can be found in an earlier set of documents that DOJ and FBI fought hard to keep secret – the text messages of those FBI love-birds Pete Strzok and Lisa Page. What we learned from their messages was that the investigation was a whole lot more about politics and and a whole lot less about verified intelligence.

There is now a concrete storyline backed by irrefutable evidence: The FBI allowed itself to take political opposition research created by one party to defeat another in an election, treated it like actionable intelligence, presented it to the court as substantiated, and then used it to justify spying on an adviser for the campaign of that party's duly chosen nominee for president in the final days of a presidential election. -The Hill

Furthermore, when the FBI couldn't prove any collusion between Trump and the Kremlin, unverified claims were leaked to the media to keep the Russia "witch hunt" rolling.

And that, is extremely embarrassing to say the least - not to mention extremely illegal.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-10-0...l-security

2018-10-08 06:39:31 UTC  

good stuff

2018-10-08 09:29:04 UTC  

@Julien Blanc
>"Liberal" might not be the right word for it though.

I guess so, but what I mean, in this context, is the reluctance to ever challenge Legal Precedents rammed through by 'liberals'. Maybe the word doesn't really mean anything anymore, kinda like 'free market' ... we live in an age where the biggest war going on is against the dictionary.

>Was George W. Bush liberal?

As for GWB, he wasn't a liberal in the modern sense of the word, no. He attempted to pass a Constitutional Ammendment against gay 'marriage' (another word rendered meaningless), so he'll forever be able to shed the label in my books.

2018-10-08 09:49:57 UTC  

He also tried to push for a fortified border.