Patrick: he has the black guy thing going for him...he's from Massachusetts..I'm not sure if he can appeal to the masses or if he's another Booker type who will sperg out

Sanders: could be dead by 2020

Warren: appeals only to progressives; this Jewish girl I know who is a former leftist said she wasn't even a fan when she was a leftist

Biden - May actually be retarded, wont appeal to anyone right of center, money on trump

Warren -- her speaking style and overall presentation is too goofy

Castro -- has 'Castro' as his last name...aside from that, I don't know much about him

Cuomo- more like NO-emo. But seriously I don;t know, likely trump

IMO the biggest danger against Trump for 2020 is:

-His health. He eats too much fast food and will be 74

His doctor says he's in great condition

other potential dangers:

-economy crashing...the Dems can field a shit candidate if Trump is massively unpopular because of the economy

actually, yeah, I can't think of anything else

Holder- No one right of center who already knows about him would vote for him, dunno, likely trump

the question isn't "Is Trump likely to win," it's "how strongly will Trump win"

I don't think too many people on the left who know about holder would vote for him

so let's see...who do you guys think will win the nomination ?

Like what market would he have other than cartel drug lords he sold guns to?

I think Sanders might be dead by then, but if he's still alive and has the energy to campaign, I see him taking it

I think he still may be unpalatable to the general population

Unless a recession happens

Trump vs Sanders 2020 --> South and Mountain States goes for Trump....if the economy is doing great and manufacturing has been brought back, I don't think Sanders' rust belt appeal will be enough, so the rust belt goes to Trump

Patrick- May actually be a real threat, however as someone who grew up with him as our governor he has his share of controversy and proven corruption. (tax evasion)

Jobs atm are returning, I think if we hold the line we'd keep the rust belt

which means a Trump victory...at the same time, a lot of moderates and independents will go to Trump, and I bet that a lot of people will be disenfranchised by the left, so maybe even states in the Northeast and West Coast will go to Trump

I'd hold off on that

NY and other similar states can go red in 2020

@FLanon I wouldn't

Unless we get some extreme voter ID, and I think this is a stretch too, I don't see these places going red

Sanders- Biggest threat IMO, will have more support than Hillary so we need to pay attention to him. also: WE MUST NEVER ASSUME JUST CAUSE HE IS OLD THAT HE WILL CROAK, AS LONG AS THEY ARE BREATHING WE MUST TREAT THEM AS IF THEY ARE IN 100% PERFECT HEALTH

I definitely think he'll have a Moore-ish type energy at 79 years old

@FLanon if we have massive turnout in upstate NY, Staten Island, and Long Island, coupled with many people in NYC being normalized toward Trump, I see NY turning red

You can't go to 4 states in one day at that condition

now, on to the other possible candidates

Warren- litteral cunt, anyone right of center, or even a little left of center will hate her or already does.

Trump vs Warren: IMO this could be a repeat of 1972, with Trump winning every state except Massachusetts

@Red Storm (in NYC) I'd be completely thrilled for you if that happened, I don't see how this happens with all the polarization nowadays though

Trump vs McCauliffe/BidenBrown/Cuomo/Murphy: Trump easily wins. Maybe also winning almost every state

no I think mass may vote her out this year, I don;t even think she has a guarantee at winning here in 2020 if she runs

You think Shiva has the chutzpah to make that happen

@FLanon my reasoning is the people who fanatically hate Trump will be worn out by 2020

I hope to christ he does

so it doesn't matter how polarized it is