not just that, but families who can sustain themselves need to start having children

I can never buy the idea that immigrants will pay for social programs, it's the most ridiculous and stupid idea I've ever heard

I think they tried that in Sweden and then they had to INCREASE the retirement age

plus it completely fucks with social trust

I don't think we've got your opinion on the immigration and nationalism question, what are your thoughts on social issues.

@Rhodesiaboo DJ Trump in NYC usually handles that

Not as well versed on social issues as I am on other issues, but I'm socially liberal.

as libertarian kind of liberal

progressive kind of liberal i guess

that's fair enough, so people should be able to do what they want is your basic outline?

what are your thoughts toward nationalism

I don't mind people taking pride of their country, but when it just outright distracts people from issues facing the country then I would have to be against that.

I mean in relation to globalism

What do you mean globalism

would, in your opinion, people benefit from the united states looking over its interests or for people to go where they want

it's hard to explain really

Do you think that the US citizen's interests significantly matter more than the interests of the general person on earth, that's a better way to phrase it

Oh yeah.

I think I know what you mean by globalism. I think of it as neoliberalism

yeah

Yeah, neoliberalism is disastrous

I don't think people get what something like allowing everyone to go anywhere would do

A nation benefits from its essence which can't be obtained elsewhere

having people everywhere go anywhere would just diminish that

Oh that's not what I was thinking of. I was thinking more along the lines of putting the elite's interest over that of the people

I mean that's a byproduct of that

I just think people should make their own nations better, improve their character and culture

Another way to ask the question maybe is, what do you think of multiculturalism, that hits the core

of what I'm asking

I don't know much about it, but I guess I'm fine? Don't really have an opinion on it other than as long as you respect others I respect you

yeah I'm not going to press you on it if you don't care too much

I just think it'd be in the American interest to try maintaining a national character, that being of a more homogenous, english speaking nation with values of entrepreneurship and opportunity ingrained

plus, IMO, who we let in also affects economics to a large degree, I think that if we do have these safety nets, we ought to have them for American citizens, and latino immigrants have a major disposition to taking welfare payments

I think that before we let someone in, we ought to ask "is this person going to put in more than take out" sort of a JFK "ask what you can do for your country" sort of system

I still have no clue as to what you believe when it comes to immigration, so feel free to say whatever

Again, with regard to welfare, just know that your tax money is not going towards government spending. We don't have a scarce amount of money, so it doesn't really matter if that latino immigrant takes more welfare money than an another person

well. that's how one can see it

we'll have to deal with the debt carriers eventually though

anyways, interesting discussion, thanks for speaking your mind

Apparently PA's Supreme Court just ordered the heavily Republican districts rewritten

I wonder if that'll go to the national Supreme Court