Message from @FLanon
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What you guys talking about
economics
Sounds neat
When are we starting another Red Wave Thread On pol
IE the problem with social security isn't whether or not we will run out of money, but it is if there are enough labor output and resources for everyone on social security to buy what they want without any scarcity. This is why full employment is essential
not just that, but families who can sustain themselves need to start having children
I can never buy the idea that immigrants will pay for social programs, it's the most ridiculous and stupid idea I've ever heard
I think they tried that in Sweden and then they had to INCREASE the retirement age
plus it completely fucks with social trust
I don't think we've got your opinion on the immigration and nationalism question, what are your thoughts on social issues.
@Rhodesiaboo DJ Trump in NYC usually handles that
Not as well versed on social issues as I am on other issues, but I'm socially liberal.
as libertarian kind of liberal
progressive kind of liberal i guess
that's fair enough, so people should be able to do what they want is your basic outline?
what are your thoughts toward nationalism
I don't mind people taking pride of their country, but when it just outright distracts people from issues facing the country then I would have to be against that.
I mean in relation to globalism
What do you mean globalism
would, in your opinion, people benefit from the united states looking over its interests or for people to go where they want
Do you think that the US citizen's interests significantly matter more than the interests of the general person on earth, that's a better way to phrase it
Oh yeah.
I think I know what you mean by globalism. I think of it as neoliberalism
yeah
Yeah, neoliberalism is disastrous
I don't think people get what something like allowing everyone to go anywhere would do
A nation benefits from its essence which can't be obtained elsewhere
having people everywhere go anywhere would just diminish that
Oh that's not what I was thinking of. I was thinking more along the lines of putting the elite's interest over that of the people
I mean that's a byproduct of that
I just think people should make their own nations better, improve their character and culture
Another way to ask the question maybe is, what do you think of multiculturalism, that hits the core
of what I'm asking
I don't know much about it, but I guess I'm fine? Don't really have an opinion on it other than as long as you respect others I respect you
yeah I'm not going to press you on it if you don't care too much
I just think it'd be in the American interest to try maintaining a national character, that being of a more homogenous, english speaking nation with values of entrepreneurship and opportunity ingrained
plus, IMO, who we let in also affects economics to a large degree, I think that if we do have these safety nets, we ought to have them for American citizens, and latino immigrants have a major disposition to taking welfare payments
I think that before we let someone in, we ought to ask "is this person going to put in more than take out" sort of a JFK "ask what you can do for your country" sort of system
I still have no clue as to what you believe when it comes to immigration, so feel free to say whatever
Again, with regard to welfare, just know that your tax money is not going towards government spending. We don't have a scarce amount of money, so it doesn't really matter if that latino immigrant takes more welfare money than an another person