Yeah, it's been pretty turbulent

Anyways, the GOP and Trump can make the excuse that the Dems fumbled the deal, that's why he passed it to them.

SWITCH PARTIES ALREADY

Oh yeah I was going to say that Manchin looks like he won't be running for Senate again this year

That'd be good for us

Who else can they even run

Ehh I'm ambivalent

It's now competing with Oklahoma for the reddest state in the union

a democrat in WV is pretty rare really

7 out of 10 voted for Trump there

Post-2000, yes

You've got to understand that it used to be a blue state

Manchin isn't progressive by any means and he might have not voted blue all the time, but he still leaned quite Democratic. The only reason Manchin won was because he ran on coal

so did every rural blue collar union area, but they're jumping ship

He's not progressive, but people too often conflate the "blue dogs" as right wing, which isn't the case

Manchin isn't voting for Trump's agenda any more than the worst Republican senators

Most probably because Schumer's holding the reins tight, but the effect is the same

Votes are what matter in legislature, that's it.

And to be honest, Manchin is probably the only WV Democrat who could beat WV Republican. IDK about the progressive alternative, Paula Swearengin

Most definitely, Manchin does well in the polls

And it doesn't look like Swearengin isn't running on coal, since it is quite anti-progressive

I think if someone like that ran in a state like WV they'd be completely finished

Anyways, back to DACA

Goodlatte or bust

The Dems cannot put all of the blame for DACA failing on Trump

He can easily argue this on a constitutional basis

"I was willing to make a deal, but they didn't care enough!"

If he came out in September and decided to end DACA and send ICE down immediately, then you could make that argument.

I think this will end well for the Rs and for us 100%.

If they capitulate, we get everything we want and the "dreamers" will screech at them, if they don't then they can't get their new voters and the "dreamers" will screech at them (this time surrounded by ICE).

It's a catch-22 in the best way possible.

win-win

Hey

I wonder if I should take a look at Chuck Schumer's home here in NYC and see if I can talk to the protestors

it's a bit of a long trip away from me though

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157912216#p157912251

new thread

bump it every 10 minutes

how the fuck did this happen
https://news.sky.com/story/north-korea-calls-for-reunification-with-south-korea-11221519

huh

wow