Message from @Extra Crispy
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In 2014 we still had Obama and the such, I mean we didn't have as much to gain from a lot in a midterm landslide
I dont get how anyone who believes that ineptitude is directly correlated to IQ and genes could believe that the poor are suffering solely because of the rich
@Extra Crispy anyways welfare, you were saying
I think that workfare would be a better alternative, since it would keep people who were dependent on the state active, and attempt to entice them to find another job
2014 was pretty shocking tbh
The thing I feel is that you shouldn't reward unproductivity
I agree
everyone expected a GOP landslide, but the fact they won in Illinois was shocking
I also think that if you have more kids while on welfare, that you shouldn't be given more welfare money
If you have a horrible disease, are a veteran, or are eligible for social security then you should be applicable for welfare, not too many exceptions
there's no such thing as a free lunch; the more money welfare recipiants demand on the tax payers to fill their pockets, the more of a burdan it is on the people who are working to pay taxes
with that in mind, I believe welfare shouldn't be anything more than a temporary supplimental solution
I also think it should be more up to the people to handle these sort of things, especially considering how there had previously before the healthcare system was in place, been a system in which a union-like organization was structured around workers who searched for the most effective, as well as cheapest doctors they could find
I also believe we should restrict social security eligibility to an extent
I think social security is a fraud
a lot of old immigrants come in here and immediately become eligible even though they haven't worked in the US
the issue is how do you convince people to defund the social security fund
its already being consumed at a rate higher than it can be filled
Yeah, that's a big problem
its very unstable
I think we should restrict it to immigrants who haven't been here since a certain age
like if you come at 60 you shouldn't be eligible
something like that
there is also an issue with pre-existing conditions
Because the idea is: you work your whole life and get payroll taxes, then you are rewarded with a certain amound of money in your old age
>rewarded
its your money
Yeah lmao
you're never going to get anything near what you put in when you were younger anyway
literally thousands of dollars, gone
I unironically think that it should be up to the kid to sign up for social security when they're older and stuff
People put up with it though because it's a form of retirement fund so they don't have to work
That's a good idea
its only a good idea for people who are too incompetent to handle money on their own
People would be incentivized to save
people should be, rather than just handing their money over to shady groups
@Red Storm (in NYC) I think we should add a political discussion channel for non-midterm related discussions like these, maybe #Discussions or something
our huge outer heaven discord has a discussions general alongside the main general, and it never gets used lol
people just continued arguing in the main chat anyway despite people asking them to move
either that, or they just stopped completely