Message from @April

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2019-03-16 01:44:16 UTC  

since the whole point is to *not* have a coercive violent government enforcing it's will

2019-03-16 01:44:35 UTC  

this is why IMO the best solution is to instead focus on building alternatives

2019-03-16 01:44:40 UTC  

rather than trying to fuck with the existing stuff

2019-03-16 01:44:52 UTC  

maybe make nonprofit organizations that help push anarchist causes

2019-03-16 01:44:59 UTC  

do anarchist acts even if illegal

2019-03-16 01:44:59 UTC  

etc

2019-03-16 01:45:04 UTC  

I see

2019-03-16 01:45:06 UTC  

digitally this is really easy

2019-03-16 01:45:12 UTC  

we have stuff like scihub and torrents

2019-03-16 01:45:19 UTC  

that help share knowledge and media to all

2019-03-16 01:45:29 UTC  

copyright is a very easy thing to reject

2019-03-16 01:45:42 UTC  

we've also got censorship resistent distributed networks and infrastructure

2019-03-16 01:45:50 UTC  

so things like website takedowns can't happen

2019-03-16 01:46:14 UTC  

the hardware for the internet is still reliant on the statist+capitalist one, but mesh networks are being built that avoid that

2019-03-16 01:46:30 UTC  

and I mentioned earlier about electricity and solar power and all that

2019-03-16 01:46:38 UTC  

If no one owns anything, how would internet work?

2019-03-16 01:47:03 UTC  

it's a complicated question

2019-03-16 01:47:27 UTC  

so as it stands the anarchist idea of using things that exist, is that people should be free to use them if they please and see fit

2019-03-16 01:47:36 UTC  

so building systems around that is the goal

2019-03-16 01:47:54 UTC  

a modern day example would be those bikes and cars you pay to use and then park when you're done and someone else can pay and use them

2019-03-16 01:48:07 UTC  

or something like public transportation

2019-03-16 01:48:13 UTC  

I see

2019-03-16 01:48:15 UTC  

just remove the payment models and pretend no one owns them

2019-03-16 01:48:43 UTC  

for the internet, it's structured using routers and wires/wireless connections

2019-03-16 01:48:49 UTC  

and then we have individual devices connect to it

2019-03-16 01:48:58 UTC  

so basically we've have nodes, similar to how cell towers are

2019-03-16 01:49:02 UTC  

that anyone can connect to

2019-03-16 01:49:12 UTC  

and those nodes would connect to each other in a decentralized/distributed way

2019-03-16 01:49:28 UTC  

the structure of the network is called a mesh network

2019-03-16 01:49:34 UTC  

there's no central authority to ask where to route the packets

2019-03-16 01:49:50 UTC  

so if one node goes bad, the system still works

2019-03-16 01:50:01 UTC  

And if someone steals the car? would that be considered "hurting anarchism" and you guys would use violence to get the car back?

2019-03-16 01:50:03 UTC  

likewise, since it's a share system, people have more incentive to keep it running

2019-03-16 01:50:26 UTC  

well the concept of "stealing" isn't a thing in anarchism

2019-03-16 01:50:31 UTC  

so say someone takes the car and uses it

2019-03-16 01:50:35 UTC  

they drive it somewhere

2019-03-16 01:50:40 UTC  

eventually they will get out of the car

2019-03-16 01:50:45 UTC  

and when they do, someone else may use it

2019-03-16 01:50:51 UTC  

the only way to prevent that is physical violence

2019-03-16 01:51:06 UTC  

at which point we arrive at the "how do you prevent opposing ideologies from attacking"

2019-03-16 01:51:32 UTC  

so some anarchists have gotten the idea to *use* capitalist systems to help enforce anarchism