Message from @April

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2019-03-16 02:08:19 UTC  

for example, if people get together and decide to make a group that operates in a certain way

2019-03-16 02:08:24 UTC  

and they elect to have a leader

2019-03-16 02:08:34 UTC  

as long as that group is not violently enforcing their will on others, they're free to do that

2019-03-16 02:08:50 UTC  

this is why many anarchists support an economic and political model very similar to today's

2019-03-16 02:08:57 UTC  

except with a lack of enforcement

2019-03-16 02:09:11 UTC  

I see

2019-03-16 02:09:20 UTC  

i still wouldnt feel safe

2019-03-16 02:09:44 UTC  

if the country doesnt exist, someone could slowly advance in different communities

2019-03-16 02:11:42 UTC  

social hierarchy would still exist lol

2019-03-16 02:11:51 UTC  

there'd still be leaders, celebrities, etc

2019-03-16 02:12:09 UTC  

there'd still be leaders and experts in certain fields, directing larger scale actions

2019-03-16 02:12:15 UTC  

So

2019-03-16 02:12:20 UTC  

the leaders own land

2019-03-16 02:12:23 UTC  

no

2019-03-16 02:12:28 UTC  

no one owns the land

2019-03-16 02:12:35 UTC  

uh

2019-03-16 02:12:36 UTC  

ok

2019-03-16 02:13:30 UTC  

if you're curious about how such a thing would work, look into decentralized moderation

2019-03-16 02:13:35 UTC  

stuff like the app aether uses it

2019-03-16 02:13:46 UTC  

the idea is basically that people can suggest certain authoritative actions

2019-03-16 02:13:51 UTC  

but no one is obligated to follow it

2019-03-16 02:14:06 UTC  

people *do* follow it willingly, if they believe that it's a good idea and respect the judgement of the person

2019-03-16 02:14:30 UTC  

think about how your own social groups work

2019-03-16 02:14:44 UTC  

do you just go "one person decides everything that happens and if you don't listen to them, well we'll beat the shit out of you"

2019-03-16 02:15:02 UTC  

or do you take it more fluidly and people suggest things, and naturally someone may become a sort of social leader that suggests good ideas that are followed

2019-03-16 02:15:17 UTC  

No but if most agree with them everyone follows

2019-03-16 02:15:23 UTC  

sure

2019-03-16 02:15:26 UTC  

but you're free to not follow

2019-03-16 02:15:32 UTC  

and just go do your own thing

2019-03-16 02:15:35 UTC  

or split up into two groups

2019-03-16 02:15:46 UTC  

they aren't *forcing* you to follow

2019-03-16 02:15:53 UTC  

even if you just naturally do because you go with the group

2019-03-16 02:16:31 UTC  

Alright, @April has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

2019-03-16 02:16:48 UTC  

take the leader and assume he has the minority of the group following him

2019-03-16 02:16:55 UTC  

yes

2019-03-16 02:16:56 UTC  

this group doesn't then force everyone else to follow

2019-03-16 02:17:16 UTC  

they can split up, or the larger group support takes dominance and the minority group follows along

2019-03-16 02:17:35 UTC  

so the leadership can change depending on what the group decides is best

2019-03-16 02:17:56 UTC  

with traditional structures, that minority group would simply use violence to enforce their will on the larger group

2019-03-16 02:18:13 UTC  

this is what happens today with the government and police/military

2019-03-16 02:18:29 UTC  

a small minority decide what goes, their enforcers inflict violence on those who disagree