Message from @April

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2019-03-19 17:06:45 UTC  

okay yes every physical thing I've seen is indeed limited

2019-03-19 17:06:54 UTC  

I can confirm that. I don't see a reason for this limitation other than gravity

2019-03-19 17:07:42 UTC  

infinity exists in mathematics, which as you said is metaphysical

2019-03-19 17:07:51 UTC  

but we can see representations of math within physical things

2019-03-19 17:08:02 UTC  

so I don't see a reason why we couldn't have a physical representation of infinity

2019-03-19 17:09:01 UTC  

i...did...not...say...mathematics is metaphysical per 'se at all ..did i

2019-03-19 17:09:11 UTC  

no, i dont recall saying that ❌

2019-03-19 17:09:37 UTC  

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And, i'll respond to that .. Math is a language

2019-03-19 17:09:43 UTC  

just like any other basically

2019-03-19 17:09:56 UTC  

language and or a tool

2019-03-19 17:10:09 UTC  

but language is a tool too, so

2019-03-19 17:10:13 UTC  

math isn't a language

2019-03-19 17:10:15 UTC  

and vice versa

2019-03-19 17:10:18 UTC  

ugh

2019-03-19 17:10:21 UTC  

yes, it IS

2019-03-19 17:10:28 UTC  

-- what you do claim it to be then

2019-03-19 17:10:39 UTC  

it's it's own thing

2019-03-19 17:10:53 UTC  

<:BigSmiles:556070613224259594> lmao

2019-03-19 17:10:54 UTC  

language is socially constructed in that we assign symobls and sounds to meanings

2019-03-19 17:11:04 UTC  

math is reproducible, even if we don't use the same language to communicate it

2019-03-19 17:11:16 UTC  

for example, 1+1=2, even if you use different symbols

2019-03-19 17:11:25 UTC  

for instance if you used A+A=B

2019-03-19 17:11:35 UTC  

the math still holds, even if you communicate it differently

2019-03-19 17:11:40 UTC  

math is a concept etc
its a language though ..as ive said

2019-03-19 17:11:45 UTC  

or further: A%A$B

2019-03-19 17:11:57 UTC  

math is reproducible independently

2019-03-19 17:12:04 UTC  

it's a clear objective thing

2019-03-19 17:12:09 UTC  

language isn't reproducible

2019-03-19 17:12:14 UTC  

thing? oh ? you can grab math?

2019-03-19 17:12:24 UTC  

can you grab words in the air? too? <:lul:484994724118134784>

2019-03-19 17:12:43 UTC  

and no ..maths is not clear -- all the time

2019-03-19 17:12:43 UTC  

?

2019-03-19 17:12:48 UTC  

in case you didnt know

2019-03-19 17:12:59 UTC  

you could erase all of our mathematical knowledge and we can reproduce it

2019-03-19 17:13:31 UTC  

just like ANY other "Language" --> math can be used to lie & decieve ...and or to tell/present/show truths

2019-03-19 17:13:42 UTC  

you can lie about math

2019-03-19 17:13:45 UTC  

but math itself doesn't lie

2019-03-19 17:14:24 UTC  

could you share how math can be used to lie and decieve?

2019-03-19 17:14:39 UTC  

because to me it just looks like those cases are an improper application or a failure to understand it

2019-03-19 17:15:14 UTC  

can make a mathematical equation that says an elephant can balance on it's trunk
"Equations" can be tweaked to fit whatever you want it to.

2019-03-19 17:15:28 UTC  

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-- Mathematics²? yeah, all their numbers, equations, and formulas ..that (so-called) "prove things" and/or present sheer 'facts' ..have always kept changing throughout time. and still do.
-- scientists have substituted/substitute mathematics² (MYTHematics) for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.
-- mathematics .. is/are a mere product of the intellect without any physical reality, and as such could-not/CAN NOT provide physical causes in the investigation of nature.\

-- "Differential calculus".. They expand the deceit to "infinity", and put everything into circular argument.