Message from @Syntax

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2019-04-06 20:44:38 UTC  

9. WAVE PROPULSION: https://imgur.com/BOi8zNF

2019-04-06 20:44:41 UTC  

No it's really not

2019-04-06 20:44:47 UTC  

EM waves have ZERO mass

2019-04-06 20:44:51 UTC  

force is mass times acceleration

2019-04-06 20:44:56 UTC  

no mass yet acceleration occurs

2019-04-06 20:45:03 UTC  

So @Ivan Pavlovich I'm sorry you're wrong

2019-04-06 20:45:16 UTC  

What acceleration?

2019-04-06 20:45:40 UTC  

Do you see the object moving as a result of being shot at with a laser?

2019-04-06 20:45:49 UTC  

lasers emit light or infra red waves

2019-04-06 20:46:08 UTC  

Yeah, waves have energy and they can transfer that.

2019-04-06 20:46:20 UTC  

so it's not a force then is it

2019-04-06 20:46:37 UTC  

It is.

2019-04-06 20:46:50 UTC  

force is mass times acceleration, what's anything times zero @Ivan Pavlovich ?

2019-04-06 20:47:02 UTC  

zero

2019-04-06 20:47:08 UTC  

zero force yet an acceleration occurs

2019-04-06 20:47:17 UTC  

The LIGHT has 0 mass, not the object being pushed.

2019-04-06 20:47:22 UTC  

force is a byproduct of accelertiaon, accelration is not a by product of force

2019-04-06 20:47:39 UTC  

so can you please shut up about forces now you've been proven WRONG

2019-04-06 20:47:40 UTC  

?

2019-04-06 20:47:47 UTC  

F = ma
Therefore a = F/m
m = F/a
You could also say that a stationary cube has no acceleration, and their mass cannot be calculated as you cannot divide by 0 so it cannot exist

2019-04-06 20:48:08 UTC  

This kind of reasoning does not work

2019-04-06 20:48:20 UTC  

I haven't been proven wrong, but we might as well move on.

2019-04-06 20:48:26 UTC  

We're talkign about acceleration and @Ivan Pavlovich keeps insisiting a force is required, it's really not

2019-04-06 20:48:33 UTC  

Can't you use p = f*v and disregard the mass term

2019-04-06 20:48:36 UTC  

But mass is part of the relationship between both

2019-04-06 20:48:38 UTC  

How can you have a force with zero mass @Ivan Pavlovich ?

2019-04-06 20:48:47 UTC  

Yes

2019-04-06 20:48:48 UTC  

How much does a beam of light weigh?

2019-04-06 20:48:51 UTC  

How can you have a mass with no acceleration?

2019-04-06 20:49:03 UTC  

Same equation

2019-04-06 20:49:05 UTC  

Same logic

2019-04-06 20:49:12 UTC  

Ok, so you're confusing the light with the object that's being pushed.

2019-04-06 20:49:22 UTC  

object being pushed by light with zero mass

2019-04-06 20:49:32 UTC  

The acceleration _of the object_ is what matters

2019-04-06 20:49:42 UTC  

@Syntax Thank you, can you tell @Ivan Pavlovich that please

2019-04-06 20:49:56 UTC  

F = ma refers to the object being pushed, not the pusher.

2019-04-06 20:49:59 UTC  

What I was saying is actually going against your line of reasoning

2019-04-06 20:50:13 UTC  

because I swear to god if this zombie doesn't shut up about his forces I'm going to kick him, a zero sum force that creates an acceleration such shit

2019-04-06 20:50:35 UTC  

Censorship.

2019-04-06 20:50:42 UTC  

You can't use the equation to argue that way
Rearrange the equation and your logic causes the value of mass to be uncalculatable

2019-04-06 20:50:43 UTC  

ANYWAYS, let's move on