Yes

ok whew

this is like pulling teeth lol

ok we have our stop sign at the equator

a guy in new york and a guy in brazil walk straight at the stop sign

they will both meet correct

at the stop sign

Yes, if they walk to that stop sign

ok

i think we are m aking progress

and that stop sign we know is east

because thats where the sun was for everyone on earth

Well, no. The people from New York and Brazil wouldn't walk east to reach it, they would have to go southern or northern direction

lol

To get to the equator

man i thought we were getting somewhere

Wait, so the sun is right where the stop sign is?

the sun rises east but now if im gonna travel in that direction im not going east somehow ? how does my direction change from east to not east

The sun is rising east from everyone

yes i know

The sun is not where the stop sign is, so you can't use it as an analogy

the stop sign is where we see the sunrise

obviously its not where the sun is

its ont he ground

Yes, but the sun is distant

ok well when we see the sunrise its at the equator

Above the equator

well if the sun is midway from rising its right at the equator line

half the sun is up

It is at the equator but also seen in the north and south, the equator isn't special in this case other than the sun being above it on the equinox

its right at the equator

idk what we are disagreeing over

I think I know

It is over the parallax of the sun

In the Globe model, the parallax of the sun is unnoticeable since it is 93 million miles away approx, so the observers don't visually intersect.

You say they should intersect at the equator as if the sun is right there in the atmosphere

But at the same time you acknowledge that the sun rises east on the equinox, so you redefine east to mean visually to the equator, comparing it to a traversing observer rather than a tangent line extending out to a distant space

when everyone looks at the sun rising on the equinox they are looking at the equator

The sun isn't located on earth at the equator however, so no, it is so distant that each person looks parallel to each other as the point of intersection is unnoticeable from the earth frame of reference

Alright, @garfield the cat has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

what in the heckin gosh darn are y'all arguing about