The sun is not where the stop sign is, so you can't use it as an analogy

the stop sign is where we see the sunrise

obviously its not where the sun is

its ont he ground

Yes, but the sun is distant

ok well when we see the sunrise its at the equator

Above the equator

well if the sun is midway from rising its right at the equator line

half the sun is up

It is at the equator but also seen in the north and south, the equator isn't special in this case other than the sun being above it on the equinox

its right at the equator

idk what we are disagreeing over

I think I know

It is over the parallax of the sun

In the Globe model, the parallax of the sun is unnoticeable since it is 93 million miles away approx, so the observers don't visually intersect.

You say they should intersect at the equator as if the sun is right there in the atmosphere

But at the same time you acknowledge that the sun rises east on the equinox, so you redefine east to mean visually to the equator, comparing it to a traversing observer rather than a tangent line extending out to a distant space

when everyone looks at the sun rising on the equinox they are looking at the equator

The sun isn't located on earth at the equator however, so no, it is so distant that each person looks parallel to each other as the point of intersection is unnoticeable from the earth frame of reference

Alright, @garfield the cat has been warned for '**Bad word usage**'.

what in the heckin gosh darn are y'all arguing about

@garfield the cat The Equinox and sunrise directions

day after day this east thing gets us nowhere

i love arguing with u though astral

I think it got somewhere

lol

When you said this,
*ur telling me ifthe new york guy and the guy in brazil walk straight toward that point their paths would never cross ?*
I found us getting somewhere

Oh yay, I'm verified

u are saying their paths wont cross i am saying they will though

But where will they cross?

Where they cross, that is where the sun is, right?

idk but u cant have 2 people in different locations walk to the same point and not have them meeting eventually

now im not even worried where the people will meet at this point lol

If they cross far enough out, they will appear parallel as if they would never intersect

so ur telling me 2 people in different locations walking toward the same point will never meet ?

is that what u are saying

No, I'm not, but,
Two people walking to the same point, if that point is far enough out, they will appear to walk parallel to each other as if they would never meet

Because it is too far out to immediately notice the convergence

but they will meet

Yes, but that is irrelevant to my point, the point is with how far away it is.

so the guy in new york and brazil will eventually meet