very nice

nah I'm not

you should probably join

We need any help we can get

well as much as I'd like to join I got IRL stuff

to handle

aight

GG @NIX, you just advanced to level 1!

you know very well what I'm talking about, it's education related, final finals

yeah ik

@Kristoff Kringle staff probably arent going to let you make your party so you might want to ask another party for that spot

we got it covered

@NIX good luck with your exams

😳

thanks man

Communism is kinda of anarchist

different things

you can be anarchist and ultra-capitalist

Communism by itself needs to be totalitarian

It's a authoritarian ideology, there is no way to distribute income and own the means of production through any other way than through the apparatus of the state

Anarcho-communism is the stupidest ideology ever

Because in practice, even in an ideal society where human nature doesn't exist, it would be impossible to put it into practice

GG @Kristoff Kringle, you just advanced to level 1!

Well inevitably yeah is authoritarian because humans are social animals therefore we need a state

It could happen however through voluntary contribution, which is why I hate anarchism so much

To protect us

Because voluntary contribution doesn't work

If we have 10 factory workers who agree that they all get paid the same, but let's say some of them do more work than others, if there's no state to threaten them they will ask for more

It's human nature to want to be paid for your hard work

And plus, humans are not equal

So of course some will do better work than others

It's why rich and poor people exist

@Mr Bunny Roth Jr Also, I wanted to appreciate you coming here for discourse

Usually people don't do that nowadays

I used to go "meet my enemy" but I'd be thrown out the server instantly

so much for the tolerant left huh

Well I mean Karl marx who was the founder of communism said that for communism to be established you needed a stateless society where capitalism will fall and communism will be stablished and the state would give power to the workers so basically the state would lose power of course all that ideology fell in a piece of contradiction because the state became the one who plannified the production supposedly in communism was the workers supposedly in communism there was going to be an equal society but a new ruling class emerged. Equality cannot be possible you said actually it can because after the second world War and the 70s inequality starting reducing also inequality is not about rich or poor is whether your population can access to services where the poor person can have the same acess as the rich person and in his environment and triumph

GG @Mr Bunny Roth Jr, you just advanced to level 1!

> so much for the tolerant left huh
@Kristoff Kringle well it's important we recover a moderate left

For that to happen the moderate left needs to distance itself from the far left

Both socially and economically