Message from @Yoda

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2018-09-25 09:21:58 UTC  

you know flat earthers are from the same group think and brainwashing as globe believers

2018-09-25 09:22:00 UTC  

"Einstein got things wrong! Look here, he predicted black holes don't exist. So haha, he was wrong....... Wait... I predict black holes don't exist......"

2018-09-25 09:22:21 UTC  

the only difference is that the flat earthers actually tested and confirmed what they could.

2018-09-25 09:22:31 UTC  

You have never in your life done any experiment

2018-09-25 09:22:41 UTC  

well general relativity is to complex to coimpute even fore einstein

2018-09-25 09:23:01 UTC  

one person did much research into relativity and special relativity and as a flat earther he brought that knowledge to the debate

2018-09-25 09:23:08 UTC  

No, he did not.

2018-09-25 09:23:08 UTC  

I have done experiments before

2018-09-25 09:23:13 UTC  

No, you have not.

2018-09-25 09:23:23 UTC  

assertion

2018-09-25 09:23:27 UTC  
2018-09-25 09:23:27 UTC  

What experiments mate

2018-09-25 09:23:37 UTC  

give me time to put up the link of the debate

2018-09-25 09:23:42 UTC  

Yes, that is a true assertion thank you.

2018-09-25 09:23:47 UTC  

Also how did they disprove relativity???

2018-09-25 09:23:52 UTC  

i dont agree

2018-09-25 09:23:57 UTC  

Well then you're wrong

2018-09-25 09:24:03 UTC  

relativity is a natural outcome of the aether

2018-09-25 09:24:48 UTC  

(turns out special relativity was derived from and is consistent with the aether hypothesis)

2018-09-25 09:24:52 UTC  

No it very much is not

2018-09-25 09:25:04 UTC  

Aether hypothesis?

2018-09-25 09:25:11 UTC  

ether

2018-09-25 09:25:13 UTC  

and it is

2018-09-25 09:25:29 UTC  

No, it is not. The simplest case is the aether model predicts that light travels at different speeds depending on your motion.

2018-09-25 09:25:40 UTC  

Lorentz ether theory is mathematically identical to einsteins relativity

2018-09-25 09:25:59 UTC  

with some semantical difrences

2018-09-25 09:26:02 UTC  

this goes over the details of why einstien was proven wrong and how flat earth is more valid

2018-09-25 09:26:26 UTC  

No, it is not at all, it is identical to special relativity (and also incredibly convoluted). It is not at all identical to relativity in general

2018-09-25 09:26:28 UTC  

only reason einstein said there is no ether is that to include its derivation makes it more complex

2018-09-25 09:26:52 UTC  

(occams razer)

2018-09-25 09:27:11 UTC  

Lorentz aether is essentially the aether with epicycles, it certainly isn't a natural outcome and it also certainly isn't identical to relativity. It is identical to relativity in flat spacetime

2018-09-25 09:27:15 UTC  

to just use its simpler derived geometry than to use the bases of it

2018-09-25 09:27:59 UTC  

special relativity is also in flat spacetime

2018-09-25 09:28:16 UTC  

i actually derived relativity from ether

2018-09-25 09:28:23 UTC  

altho not formaly

2018-09-25 09:28:34 UTC  

relativity is simply an outcome of the doppler effect

2018-09-25 09:29:04 UTC  

Yes, but special relativity is a part of general relativity. Lorentz aether predicts completely wrong results in curved spacetime.

2018-09-25 09:29:04 UTC  

sigma 5 is an ostrich

2018-09-25 09:29:24 UTC  

yes