Message from @Yoda

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2018-09-25 10:02:40 UTC  

but i do agree its less usefull and statisticly identical

2018-09-25 10:03:28 UTC  

i do think its intresting tho

2018-09-25 10:03:51 UTC  

bohm theory is deterministic but scientificly identical to the standard probabilistic model

2018-09-25 10:04:12 UTC  

Broglie bohm isn't a natural consequence of (I'm assuming by probabilistic model you mean quantum mechanics), it is an interpretation of quantum mechanics. It also isn't an aether theory if that's what you're implying

2018-09-25 10:04:26 UTC  

never said it was an ether theory

2018-09-25 10:04:36 UTC  

Then I don't see the relevance

2018-09-25 10:04:44 UTC  

i state it so you get a better idea whats going on in my head

2018-09-25 10:05:06 UTC  

by giving a similar thaught

2018-09-25 10:05:52 UTC  

what i ment by natural consequence is i mena its a derived consept from the same equations

2018-09-25 10:05:57 UTC  

maybe slightly modified

2018-09-25 10:06:10 UTC  

but i havent lkooked into it to know if thats right or not

2018-09-25 10:09:03 UTC  

Wait are you two having a productive debate? In Ice Wall? <:ohheck:485078351162376202>

2018-09-25 10:09:11 UTC  

kinda

2018-09-25 10:09:23 UTC  

he disagrees with me that ether is consistent with special relativity

2018-09-25 10:09:48 UTC  

lorentz ether theory is mathematicly identical to special relativity in its predictions

2018-09-25 10:10:24 UTC  

lorents ether theory is the theory that space is a motionless medium that follows the wave equation

2018-09-25 10:10:35 UTC  

Yeah this is all above me tbh

2018-09-25 10:10:37 UTC  

then he argues that its the propogation of waves not the medium

2018-09-25 10:10:47 UTC  

i dont see the difrence

2018-09-25 10:10:47 UTC  

I know aminals I don't know physics

2018-09-25 10:11:08 UTC  

Wait but wasn't the aether theory dropped way back in the 1900s

2018-09-25 10:11:14 UTC  

im sure you know what i mean by that when i say it

2018-09-25 10:11:23 UTC  

No, this is not a productive debate, sigma 5 just keeps saying nonsense and lying about what I'm saying

2018-09-25 10:11:25 UTC  

it is becasue its useless now

2018-09-25 10:11:48 UTC  

e.g. ``he disagrees with me that ether is consistent with special relativity`` I have said completely explicitly literally 4 times that the aether is consistent with special relativity

2018-09-25 10:11:48 UTC  

skip the derivations and get right to the point

2018-09-25 10:12:03 UTC  

you explicitly said many times that its not

2018-09-25 10:12:16 UTC  

I have not said a single time that it is not.

2018-09-25 10:12:47 UTC  

ok

2018-09-25 10:13:04 UTC  

I have on the other hand, repeatedly, said that it is. e.g. ``Moist MayonnaiseToday at 11:26 AM
No, it is not at all, it is identical to special relativity (and also incredibly convoluted). It is not at all identical to relativity in general``

2018-09-25 10:13:05 UTC  

birds are reptiles

2018-09-25 10:13:14 UTC  

I'm just happy to read some non Kevin content tbh

2018-09-25 10:13:27 UTC  

@Σ5 hecc off that's wrong

2018-09-25 10:13:41 UTC  

@Yoda Yes the aether theory was dropped because it was shown to not be valid

2018-09-25 10:13:49 UTC  

birds are by definition reptiles, according to phylogenic classification

2018-09-25 10:14:22 UTC  

@Σ5 as are mammals

2018-09-25 10:14:27 UTC  

false

2018-09-25 10:14:38 UTC  

mamals are an earlier branch

2018-09-25 10:14:50 UTC  

There's a reason we have more specific classifications

2018-09-25 10:15:02 UTC  

like phylogenic clasification

2018-09-25 10:15:22 UTC  

in fact you need a reptile liscence to own certian types of birds