Yep

Hahaha @Crye_Salesman we had normal vics, I dig the uparmored van though.

Im just trying to find clear glass for around 400 lol

1) irons require 3, but optics require 2, unless you don't have a specific target you're shooting at. And focal planes are not the only or even primary determining factor for speed
2) true of red dots, not optics in general. Even 1x prisms cause some inattentive people to get lost in the tube. Anything over 1x is absolutely more likely to compromise awareness of surroundings than irons.
3)size of the aiming point is not the only factor in precision. If you're using the whole front sight post to hit a man sized target at 500m, someone did you dirty in training.
4)fair-ish. Irons are still very usable in low light, but no light, absolutely correct.
5)in theory many optics work with NV. In practice, you have to have trained and specifically set up the whole rifle and NVG to work like that, and even then most will still prefer to run a peq.

And all of that only applies to irons vs red dots. Throw in LPVOs and other magnified glass and it's a whole different speed vs precision ballgame. I'm not saying irons are better. I'm saying they have a place, especially in training.

@ViperSRT3g 🐍 I have one my self, they are fine if they are in spec

The vans where a bitch to work in and around in the cities, but the hilux’s and land cruisers where fun af

Zeroed at the 36, confirmed at 100

Omg, yes. I'll take a hilux any day.

Just need to get out to a range to stretch its legs at 500

I’ll be the first to tell you, I’m a dumb fuck. I’m not a long range shooter. Nor do I care to be

Oh and Viper, I have no problem with the stock itself. I just thought it funny you were pairing that with only a 4x, hahaha

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I'm just sticking with what I'm familiar with

@American_AF anyone who owns a rifle needs to be able to hit out to at least 200m.

I have one of those myself, I use it on my 6.5 though

Every high end optic I have I got in trades and side jobs I did.

Oh I can hit 200m. That’s not long range.

A beautiful beast, I do love a hilux. Bastards gave me a Ford Fiesta last place I was at XD

If you have a service rifle you should be able to take supported, on demand head shots out to 300.

You'd be surprised how many retards can't

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No shit, I'm more accurate at 300m than 50 during qual ranges, haha

I’m all too aware. People are fucking retarded.

Shooting should be the easy part tbh, that shit should be automatic until you start doing like long range movers with high wind

Yep, hence why I practice reflexive. Say all you want, but getting on target and getting that muscle memory is important to me.

Ew

Reflexive isn’t a thing

Muscles don’t have memory

😂 your trying too hard man.

You're telling me you haven't practiced going from low to high ready to make sure you don't pull to harshly when going on target?

🤔

Then again, most of the reflexive fire I do, was with my unit.

Shot process is shot process. There’s no fucking “reflex fire” bullshit, the world has learned since then.
Mount the gun, acquire an acceptable sight solution and maintain it while pressing the trigger. Follow though with recoil control and sight tracking.

Reflex fire is literally what they tell people they’re not taking the time to give real training to, sorry man.

It’s just a figure of speech bud. You know this

Words mean things

Oh god, I know you've been around humint now

I say that all the damn time

In a literal sense. Yes

Okay, yes you're right. But you know what I actually meant.

I can’t believe how anal some of the Intel cats are about “words mean things”