Message from @vry_o

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2017-02-19 16:20:19 UTC  

god forbid

2017-02-19 16:20:22 UTC  

why would they want to?

2017-02-19 16:20:46 UTC  

Revelation

Thomas believed that truth is known through reason (natural revelation) and faith (supernatural revelation). Supernatural revelation has its origin in the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and is made available through the teaching of the prophets, summed up in Holy Scripture, and transmitted by the Magisterium, the sum of which is called "Tradition". Natural revelation is the truth available to all people through their human nature and powers of reason. For example, he felt this applied to rational ways to know the existence of God.

Though one may deduce the existence of God and his Attributes (Unity, Truth, Goodness, Power, Knowledge) through reason, certain specifics may be known only through the special revelation of God through Jesus Christ. The major theological components of Christianity, such as the Trinity, the Incarnation, and charity are revealed in the teachings of the Church and the Scriptures and may not otherwise be deduced.[104]

@spaceplacenta from wikipedia

2017-02-19 16:21:10 UTC  

wasn't it the duty of an appropriate shepherd to shield his flock from such theological girthniess

2017-02-19 16:21:30 UTC  

He seems to suggest that divine wisdom is the path to God here

2017-02-19 16:21:59 UTC  

I have a seminary book on his metaphysics somewhere

2017-02-19 16:22:20 UTC  

most christians wouldn't be able to tell you about christianity

2017-02-19 16:22:54 UTC  

most real estate agents can't look after a house

2017-02-19 16:25:03 UTC  

Christians don't see nature as profane you oaf. They display a pervasive fear of the "nasty" biological realities of life/nature.

2017-02-19 16:29:34 UTC  

Most Christians do

2017-02-19 16:29:53 UTC  

The harsh nature of reality doesn't bode well

2017-02-19 16:30:01 UTC  

This is true for most people in general

2017-02-19 16:30:06 UTC  

As stated above

2017-02-19 16:31:08 UTC  

Most people are content gallivanting around

2017-02-19 16:31:29 UTC  

Shopping, talking about pop culture

2017-02-19 16:32:45 UTC  

They would see the bush people in the highlands of papua new guinea as profane

2017-02-19 16:33:12 UTC  

Well I mean keeping up with the Kardashians is infinitely more exciting than treking up a hill to stare at a bush

2017-02-19 16:35:06 UTC  

Do you blame people for wanting to be shielded from the profane?

2017-02-19 16:35:26 UTC  

Partially

2017-02-19 16:35:32 UTC  

perhaps life isn't meant to bode well with death

2017-02-19 16:35:38 UTC  

Better stated from the opposite spectrum

2017-02-19 16:35:49 UTC  

No exposure to unpleasantness

2017-02-19 16:36:32 UTC  

Entertainment remains in the foreground

2017-02-19 16:37:20 UTC  

That's not a Christian thing, that's a secular thing

2017-02-19 16:37:45 UTC  

and the permutation of unliving to living to dying to death is laid out in such a way that albeit is predictable, is unpleasant

2017-02-19 16:38:07 UTC  

it's offshoot religion which still harbors the same disgust at the mucous and blood of living in favor of a clean sterile existence.

2017-02-19 16:38:12 UTC  

as i have my doubts as to whether or not the soul desires captivity in a mortal shell

2017-02-19 16:38:42 UTC  

Would you agree that most Christians are secular at least in socialization?

2017-02-19 16:39:19 UTC  

i'd say most Christians have developed a taste for the secular

2017-02-19 16:39:48 UTC  

to desire such a thing, but to not actually have a feel for attaining it

2017-02-19 16:39:49 UTC  

The Christians of today aren't the same Christians from the dark ages

2017-02-19 16:39:57 UTC  

funny that is

2017-02-19 16:40:03 UTC  

the sky is still the same

2017-02-19 16:40:06 UTC  

the ground is still the same

2017-02-19 16:40:20 UTC  

life and death are both still the same

2017-02-19 16:40:27 UTC  

what do you reckon changed?

2017-02-19 16:40:50 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism would say the enlightenment (tm)

2017-02-19 16:41:41 UTC  

The herding nature of people in the abstract

2017-02-19 16:42:04 UTC  

tech

2017-02-19 16:42:06 UTC  

duh