Message from @vry_o

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2017-02-19 16:06:19 UTC  

called it

2017-02-19 16:06:52 UTC  

Christians aren't like Timothy Treadwell ime

2017-02-19 16:06:53 UTC  

Elephants destroying trees

2017-02-19 16:07:16 UTC  

Goats shitting out pebbles all over the place

2017-02-19 16:08:14 UTC  

Being exiled into the wilderness as punishment

2017-02-19 16:08:44 UTC  

i'm still not sure of your question

2017-02-19 16:08:46 UTC  

my neckbeard just grew another two inches, thanks lonegoat

2017-02-19 16:09:44 UTC  

Average Christians holding nature in a profane light

2017-02-19 16:09:50 UTC  

Death

2017-02-19 16:10:21 UTC  

is this the b-side to that averse sefira interview

2017-02-19 16:11:49 UTC  

Yes, I think Christians think death is unnatural and therefore profane

2017-02-19 16:12:28 UTC  

Death is a large element in nature

2017-02-19 16:12:46 UTC  

Therefore, most Christians see nature as profane

2017-02-19 16:12:49 UTC  

i think i read a book about this

2017-02-19 16:13:04 UTC  

by martin ain and thomas gabriel fischer

2017-02-19 16:13:43 UTC  

that is an inversion of the actual process and i daresay a deliberate one

2017-02-19 16:13:52 UTC  

you will not get my goat

2017-02-19 16:16:30 UTC  

Aquinas held nature as the same elevation of the divine

2017-02-19 16:16:42 UTC  

Most Christians don't see it this way

2017-02-19 16:17:34 UTC  

I don't think most Christians would be able to tell you much about Aquinas

2017-02-19 16:20:07 UTC  

save some ecclesiastical members

2017-02-19 16:20:10 UTC  

Let me investigate your claim however

2017-02-19 16:20:19 UTC  

god forbid

2017-02-19 16:20:22 UTC  

why would they want to?

2017-02-19 16:20:46 UTC  

Revelation

Thomas believed that truth is known through reason (natural revelation) and faith (supernatural revelation). Supernatural revelation has its origin in the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and is made available through the teaching of the prophets, summed up in Holy Scripture, and transmitted by the Magisterium, the sum of which is called "Tradition". Natural revelation is the truth available to all people through their human nature and powers of reason. For example, he felt this applied to rational ways to know the existence of God.

Though one may deduce the existence of God and his Attributes (Unity, Truth, Goodness, Power, Knowledge) through reason, certain specifics may be known only through the special revelation of God through Jesus Christ. The major theological components of Christianity, such as the Trinity, the Incarnation, and charity are revealed in the teachings of the Church and the Scriptures and may not otherwise be deduced.[104]

@spaceplacenta from wikipedia

2017-02-19 16:21:10 UTC  

wasn't it the duty of an appropriate shepherd to shield his flock from such theological girthniess

2017-02-19 16:21:30 UTC  

He seems to suggest that divine wisdom is the path to God here

2017-02-19 16:21:59 UTC  

I have a seminary book on his metaphysics somewhere

2017-02-19 16:22:20 UTC  

most christians wouldn't be able to tell you about christianity

2017-02-19 16:22:54 UTC  

most real estate agents can't look after a house

2017-02-19 16:25:03 UTC  

Christians don't see nature as profane you oaf. They display a pervasive fear of the "nasty" biological realities of life/nature.

2017-02-19 16:29:34 UTC  

Most Christians do

2017-02-19 16:29:53 UTC  

The harsh nature of reality doesn't bode well

2017-02-19 16:30:01 UTC  

This is true for most people in general

2017-02-19 16:30:06 UTC  

As stated above

2017-02-19 16:31:08 UTC  

Most people are content gallivanting around

2017-02-19 16:31:29 UTC  

Shopping, talking about pop culture

2017-02-19 16:32:45 UTC  

They would see the bush people in the highlands of papua new guinea as profane

2017-02-19 16:33:12 UTC  

Well I mean keeping up with the Kardashians is infinitely more exciting than treking up a hill to stare at a bush

2017-02-19 16:35:06 UTC  

Do you blame people for wanting to be shielded from the profane?