Message from @profagonist

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2017-02-19 16:03:59 UTC  

Which you noted

2017-02-19 16:04:14 UTC  

that's not necessarily profane

2017-02-19 16:04:14 UTC  

Based on what?

2017-02-19 16:04:54 UTC  

Predation as a consequence of leaving Eden?

2017-02-19 16:05:15 UTC  

An average Christian strolling through a safari seeing animals eating the carcass of other animals

2017-02-19 16:05:22 UTC  

Would see it as profane

2017-02-19 16:05:30 UTC  

I don't think they would

2017-02-19 16:05:51 UTC  

What about lice

2017-02-19 16:06:06 UTC  

Roaches

2017-02-19 16:06:13 UTC  

Spiders

2017-02-19 16:06:16 UTC  

the fuck are you talking about spider expert

2017-02-19 16:06:19 UTC  

called it

2017-02-19 16:06:52 UTC  

Christians aren't like Timothy Treadwell ime

2017-02-19 16:06:53 UTC  

Elephants destroying trees

2017-02-19 16:07:16 UTC  

Goats shitting out pebbles all over the place

2017-02-19 16:08:14 UTC  

Being exiled into the wilderness as punishment

2017-02-19 16:08:44 UTC  

i'm still not sure of your question

2017-02-19 16:08:46 UTC  

my neckbeard just grew another two inches, thanks lonegoat

2017-02-19 16:09:44 UTC  

Average Christians holding nature in a profane light

2017-02-19 16:09:50 UTC  

Death

2017-02-19 16:10:21 UTC  

is this the b-side to that averse sefira interview

2017-02-19 16:11:49 UTC  

Yes, I think Christians think death is unnatural and therefore profane

2017-02-19 16:12:28 UTC  

Death is a large element in nature

2017-02-19 16:12:46 UTC  

Therefore, most Christians see nature as profane

2017-02-19 16:12:49 UTC  

i think i read a book about this

2017-02-19 16:13:04 UTC  

by martin ain and thomas gabriel fischer

2017-02-19 16:13:43 UTC  

that is an inversion of the actual process and i daresay a deliberate one

2017-02-19 16:13:52 UTC  

you will not get my goat

2017-02-19 16:16:30 UTC  

Aquinas held nature as the same elevation of the divine

2017-02-19 16:16:42 UTC  

Most Christians don't see it this way

2017-02-19 16:17:34 UTC  

I don't think most Christians would be able to tell you much about Aquinas

2017-02-19 16:20:07 UTC  

save some ecclesiastical members

2017-02-19 16:20:10 UTC  

Let me investigate your claim however

2017-02-19 16:20:19 UTC  

god forbid

2017-02-19 16:20:22 UTC  

why would they want to?

2017-02-19 16:20:46 UTC  

Revelation

Thomas believed that truth is known through reason (natural revelation) and faith (supernatural revelation). Supernatural revelation has its origin in the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and is made available through the teaching of the prophets, summed up in Holy Scripture, and transmitted by the Magisterium, the sum of which is called "Tradition". Natural revelation is the truth available to all people through their human nature and powers of reason. For example, he felt this applied to rational ways to know the existence of God.

Though one may deduce the existence of God and his Attributes (Unity, Truth, Goodness, Power, Knowledge) through reason, certain specifics may be known only through the special revelation of God through Jesus Christ. The major theological components of Christianity, such as the Trinity, the Incarnation, and charity are revealed in the teachings of the Church and the Scriptures and may not otherwise be deduced.[104]

@spaceplacenta from wikipedia

2017-02-19 16:21:10 UTC  

wasn't it the duty of an appropriate shepherd to shield his flock from such theological girthniess

2017-02-19 16:21:30 UTC  

He seems to suggest that divine wisdom is the path to God here

2017-02-19 16:21:59 UTC  

I have a seminary book on his metaphysics somewhere

2017-02-19 16:22:20 UTC  

most christians wouldn't be able to tell you about christianity

2017-02-19 16:22:54 UTC  

most real estate agents can't look after a house