Idk they just had some of the best runs.

Immortal shits on both bands and make them look like losers.

Sabbath and Maiden did too.

Just some boners

Blunders thrown in.

Immortal alone is better than all heavy metal combined

Just Pure or Battles

@Nester LACK OF ACTUAL INTERNAL TENSION

SEEMS KIND OF LUKEWARM TO ME

better than all heavy metal and thrash combined.

LOVE THE FIRST, SECOND AND FOURTH

DO NOT MIND "AT THE HEART OF WINTER"

BUT IT IS LIKE CEMETARY

HIGHLY SENTIMENTAL

My buddy proved they rip off themselves in that to me.

It's all Miaden + earlier immortal riffs.

He sold the CD due to that

I don't understand that, @diversity_is_racism . Pure is a bit detached and whimsical. But Battles is extremely tense, as if it's barely holding together.

THE TOP TEN IN BLACK METAL ARE ALL FAIRLY COMPARABLE

And is being attacked from all sides perpetually.

CLEARLY BURZUM WINS THE GENRE

BUT OTHERS ALSO MADE GREAT WORKS, ALTHOUGH RARELY BEYOND THREE ALBUMS

@Nester BARELY HOLDING TOGETHER = DRIVEN BY RHYTHM AND TECHNIQUE MORE THAN CONTENT

FITTING WITH ITS RELATIVELY RUSHED NATURE

But is something like Onward to Golgotha black metal?

Like the first 10 seconds of At the Stormy Gates of Mist

It's certainly closer than all of USBM.

Same with the first three Morbid Angel.

Like climbing up a mountain pathway and almost being overtaken by the wind

Snow up to knees, every step is taking everything out of you.

Change the vox and guitar tone and Show no Mercy is basically Enslaved

With the clear worship of influences with single note fills.

You're almost unconscious, aren't so as to your great will.

And proggish riff progressions.

EARLY ENSLAVED IS SOMEWHAT AMAZING

PROBLEM WAS YOUTH

VIKINGLGR VELDI IS GREATNESS

Internal struggle, internal tension.

EVEN IF SIMPLE SOMETIMES

The problem was rhuebnever got over imitating their influences.

They started at it.