Message from @fallot

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2017-03-07 12:48:05 UTC  

there is another, occult element here I believe

2017-03-07 12:48:09 UTC  

a hidden hand

2017-03-07 12:48:20 UTC  

but I guess that's not relevant to this particular exchange

2017-03-07 12:50:08 UTC  

obviously, middle class, just as every group there is on the planet, must operate using the same logic, that is, making an interest group within and denying resources or power to the outsiders

2017-03-07 12:50:38 UTC  

I dont think that is a valuable way of understanding the middle class, human connection is much lower level than this

2017-03-07 12:50:40 UTC  

but because society is perfectly levelled, is why we have this radical dystopia - the elite, or 1%

2017-03-07 12:50:42 UTC  

and the rest

2017-03-07 12:50:58 UTC  

the undifferentiated mass of people who have no power, and above all, no control

2017-03-07 12:51:14 UTC  

that much I agree with

2017-03-07 12:51:37 UTC  

the true nihilistic meritocracy

2017-03-07 12:52:06 UTC  

so the reason soviet union failed, and progressivism persisted

2017-03-07 12:52:25 UTC  

is because making everyone a worker ceased being such a feasible option

2017-03-07 12:52:29 UTC  

self chosen rather than top down damnation

2017-03-07 12:52:39 UTC  

instead, a middle class alternative won, which attempts to make everyone a citizen

2017-03-07 12:52:47 UTC  

a consumer, sure

2017-03-07 12:52:51 UTC  

Christianity is good for the middle class

2017-03-07 12:53:01 UTC  

and good full stop

2017-03-07 12:53:14 UTC  

No

2017-03-07 12:53:21 UTC  

one needs to separate certain religious behaviour from the truth of a certain faith

2017-03-07 12:53:33 UTC  

Christianity today sources both its clerics and it's flock from two classes of people

2017-03-07 12:53:33 UTC  

though ends are still a good barometer

2017-03-07 12:53:46 UTC  

Working class people aspiring to be middle class people

2017-03-07 12:53:52 UTC  

It's good in regard that it keeps value, culture and tradition going

2017-03-07 12:53:59 UTC  

faggot striver poors

2017-03-07 12:54:00 UTC  

It's metaphysically lame

2017-03-07 12:54:19 UTC  

While I dont believe in christianity, it's metaphysically sound

2017-03-07 12:54:38 UTC  

I don't think it is

2017-03-07 12:54:49 UTC  

Aside from the flaws in the Bible

2017-03-07 12:54:57 UTC  

And on the other hand, a certain brand of conformists who externally appear to be "against the system" but who internally, completely embrace the pathetic mindset of the herd, which is essentially the desire for safety as a top priority

2017-03-07 12:55:00 UTC  

there is more wisdom and understanding about the nature of existence in christian discourse, bible or no bible, than any other

2017-03-07 12:55:15 UTC  

It gives reward to those of passive ethics

2017-03-07 12:55:20 UTC  

what's pathetic about that mindset, seems quite sensible

2017-03-07 12:55:33 UTC  

Even muslims are better, they're more stern at least

2017-03-07 12:55:37 UTC  

Nowadays

2017-03-07 12:55:46 UTC  

transient, meaningless

2017-03-07 12:55:52 UTC  

eventually muslims will become as christians now

2017-03-07 12:55:57 UTC  

except a bit dumber

2017-03-07 12:56:39 UTC  

well I mean we'll get the second coming before that

2017-03-07 12:56:40 UTC  

but in theory

2017-03-07 12:57:22 UTC  

Christian dogma is what it is, an entirely passive spiritual mode

2017-03-07 12:57:32 UTC  

Bible on the other hand is a valuable source