Or rather, consciousness

How not?

Because "something" is turning potential into actual

Yes, consciousness

What is consciousness then

I dont know. Whatever it is its alive and thinks

Scrub

Does consciousness the concept cover both imagination and decision?

If so. Nil else is needed for potential and actual.

Later

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i miss exilarch

It doesn't seem to cover it

@Horns I'm not against environmentalism, only the extremism that can come out of it by overestimating human ability to "fuck things up" and underestimating nature's ability to adapt and push back

did you read what i just sent on faceplant

No not yet

10:34am
what i'm perceiving as inconsistency is your 'shah, man' approach to environmentalism whilst ridiculing marxists who say that about peak oil
but the bit about a lack of omnipotence clears it up

@fallot consciousness is pretty consistently understood as awareness.

So naturally I have to ask what consciousness is to you

Since it's obviously not that

You're adding imagination and decision.

Which begs the question, what are those?

How is a decision made

what is imagining

@Horns what is "shah,man"

psyeh mang

innit

you know it

I'm confused

it's a black/drug user/hipster way of saying pffft

fuckin cacker

i thought you were more street than me

pretender

we were talking about deep ecology and how that tends towards "sterilize now! Never go beyond mud huts"

that's what it should tend to

also why i now view fallot as an agent of pc satan

I think there's a more sensible and modest approach

you're a liberal

my right winger friends think I'm liberal my left winger friends think I'm conservative