WE ALL KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO ATHENS AND ROME

WE ALL READ PLATO

That doesnt seem too bad

If that was all that was happening it would be peachy

THERE IS A FAILURE MUCH EARLIER... BEFORE DEMOCRACY AND THE ENLIGHTENMENT (SPIT)

WHICH WAS SIMPLY SUCCESS

AND THUS INDIVIDUALISM

IT'S A TRAP!

A good thing can lead to a bad thing

Doesnt have to be the problem. I agree success is a big contributor

@fallot "A good thing can lead to a bad thing" -- YES AND IN FACT USUALLY *MUST* LEAD TO A BAD THING

TO KEEP MOMENTUM GOING

THIS IS THE HEGELIAN PENDULUM

TOO MUCH OF ONE DIRECTION = UNSTABLE B/C PREDICTABLE

I dont believe that or accept it. I believe in progress.

Fallotwhat abou kiwifarms?

It's good to have beliefs. @fallot also believes that you can't change your type as determined by a b.s. arbitrary pop-psych system. 😉

You spoke derisively about it in that Exilarch ep

So I was curious

Oh, I had some kid from there try tp dox me

Why

there are cabals, and democratic herds are incredibly easy to herd. That's what a herd is.

Because I exist

@Jake Saga my point was it invalidates the system if you can change your tyoe

Either one says its all crap

but just because you have the right to walk on a green light doesn't mean you aren't stupid for not looking both ways. The democratic herd is still responsible for being stupidly herded off a cliff.

Or rolls with it

Or replaces it

the typology can still be useful even if you can change you type.

Yes. People are all individually responsible.

@fallot "I believe in progress." -- WHAT?

THERE IS NO PROGRESS

ONLY QUALITATIVE IMPROVEMENT

Which is progress

NO

IT IS THE SAME THING

I dont accept the modern faith of Progress

IMPROVED IN QUALITY

NOT A CHANGE IN THINGS

THEN THAT IS NOT PROGRESS

Seems a bit semantic