Message from @HyperBaroque

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2019-02-10 19:29:16 UTC  

I do like some of the side discussions that come up. Especially about questioning the completeness of theories about electromagnetism (especially concerning Earth's magnetosphere), gravity, and light physics.

2019-02-10 19:29:29 UTC  

Jadon. You must first understand why flat earthers have come to their belief...then you will be able to debate better. 😉

2019-02-10 19:30:24 UTC  

If we don't question the theory of gravity, for instance, we'll never dismantle it and improve on it towards unifying it with other theories.

2019-02-10 19:31:23 UTC  

in short its just reflection, thats what a mirage is

2019-02-10 19:31:39 UTC  

Actually, <@484198784901840897> Citizen has been giving you valuable info that you choose to ignore.

2019-02-10 19:31:59 UTC  
2019-02-10 19:32:11 UTC  

there is no evidence i have seen with measurements of boats being shown to go over any curve. its always just assumed a curve because the boat starts disappearing or miraging

2019-02-10 19:32:24 UTC  

its not the same whatsoever

2019-02-10 19:32:37 UTC  

<@484198784901840897> Can I assume you learned about refraction with lenses?

2019-02-10 19:33:14 UTC  

<@484198784901840897> what happens to light when it passes through a convex lens?

2019-02-10 19:33:16 UTC  

Really focusing on thr issue now

2019-02-10 19:33:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/379214321907007488/533410207565479944/unknown.png

If we turn the image 90 degrees , AT a further distance that would look like one windows and the horizon would appear to be where the wall is
Disregard the light part of the graphic and just think about the wave form. Imagine the ground or sea is like that. With a Side view , Say you are all the way on the right looking toward the left at the same height as the wave peaks. You would see nothing not light that goes "inside" the waves. To the observer it would appear as a smooth surface

2019-02-10 19:33:45 UTC  

What happens to light with a convex lens?

2019-02-10 19:33:49 UTC  

I mainly came here to see if anybody has listened to the recent Conspiracy Unlimited podcast about Paul Is Dead.

2019-02-10 19:34:18 UTC  

That’s correct Jadon.

2019-02-10 19:34:20 UTC  

@HyperBaroque no you can post?

2019-02-10 19:35:10 UTC  

If the earth is convex...in relation to parallel light rays coming from the sun...why do the rays not converge?

2019-02-10 19:35:37 UTC  

Gas content of the atmosphere, Gwench.

2019-02-10 19:35:41 UTC  

When passing through our atmosphere.

2019-02-10 19:36:07 UTC  

Basically, our atmosphere isn't glass?

2019-02-10 19:36:11 UTC  

The atmosphere must also be convex. That would be a logical conclusion...yes?

2019-02-10 19:38:24 UTC  

My point is this. When I present valid questions...your answer is always atmospheric refraction. BS. You gotta do better than that.

2019-02-10 19:38:33 UTC  

What happens when the sun hits our atmosphere , according to some recent theories, is more like the energizing of a plasma field than the passing of light through a perfect glass medium.

2019-02-10 19:39:18 UTC  

could be i dont think anyone knows for sure

2019-02-10 19:39:45 UTC  

I agree that Earth atmospheric science is still too sketchy.

2019-02-10 19:41:40 UTC  

Some neat theories, such as one that says the magnetic fields of Earth and Sun are interlinked in a somewhat lifelike manner, with them "breathing" energy back and forth, get shoved aside and labeled "fringe". And long held veliefs such as that the ozone hole has repaired itself are being overthrown. So I consider a lot of atmospheric science to be in disarray.

2019-02-10 19:42:49 UTC  

<@484198784901840897> moving lines of flux, basically.

2019-02-10 19:43:04 UTC  

@HyperBaroque yes they are neat

2019-02-10 19:43:20 UTC  

Flux is just the observable lines of electromagnetic force.

2019-02-10 19:43:45 UTC  

Again, this is debatable down to the point where we can question electromagnetism itself, of course.

2019-02-10 19:45:39 UTC  

I just think that a theory positing a more dynamic and interactive relationship between the Earth's and Sun's magnetospheres seems worthwhile scientifically (whether or not new agers latch on because it sounds cool,) and it's sort of a shame is gets treated as bunk and not looked at at all by people who want everything to be simplified and deadened.

2019-02-10 19:46:17 UTC  

Skepticism is great and all but it can become a cult like entity.

2019-02-10 19:46:47 UTC  

@HyperBaroque Your comment is interesting. 🤔

2019-02-10 19:47:14 UTC  

If the earth is flat, all the dinosaurs must've went flying into space