Message from @fallot
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whether I die and turn to dust doesn't matter
to the point that for humans, our lives still need a certain framework of meaning, which is religion
humans aer nothing, there is no god, medieval philosophers realized that there could not be a god
that we perceive the world in a certain fashion
when they used aristotlian logic to disprove neo-platonism
you've gone down a different track now
in the 1100s
proving or disproving stuff, philosophy, none of it matters
religion in humanity precedes agriculture
precedes any kind of social organization
religion is basically magical thinking
there's a good case for saying that humans only got together at all
"magical thinking" is real thinking
how is it real?
they're real thoughts that people had
attributing meaning and justification to various aspects of your life
but how is it real thinking?
it's how you live anyway, without realizing it
no, most people never used magical thinking, even in pre-historic times
in their dailyt life
yes it does
no, it would be the same as delusion
magical thinking is a delusion
the term you refer to as "magical thinking" encompasses two things
being stupid and/or crazy
and considering the world an alive thing where life matters
or that matters in some way
no life matters
I think I should elaborate on matters
all life could die and the world would not care
it would keep on orbitting around the sun
yes, but mattering is not inconsistent with that
pagans were exceptionally fatalistic
which is slowly twirling around a black hole
"everything will die, the end"
until it collides with another star
or runs out of nuclear fuel
okay, sure
the world could end right now
there is no allah