Message from @Death Strike's Bat

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2017-04-04 17:04:27 UTC  

later dude

2017-04-04 17:04:38 UTC  

"we're apes on a rock WHOA DUDE"

2017-04-04 17:04:45 UTC  

you will die and in 200 years, nobody living will remember you or know your name

2017-04-04 17:04:48 UTC  

simple as that

2017-04-04 17:04:51 UTC  

so what

2017-04-04 17:04:56 UTC  

what's your point

2017-04-04 17:05:05 UTC  

whether I die and turn to dust doesn't matter

2017-04-04 17:05:31 UTC  

to the point that for humans, our lives still need a certain framework of meaning, which is religion

2017-04-04 17:05:36 UTC  

humans aer nothing, there is no god, medieval philosophers realized that there could not be a god

2017-04-04 17:05:38 UTC  

that we perceive the world in a certain fashion

2017-04-04 17:06:02 UTC  

when they used aristotlian logic to disprove neo-platonism

2017-04-04 17:06:03 UTC  

you've gone down a different track now

2017-04-04 17:06:10 UTC  

in the 1100s

2017-04-04 17:06:13 UTC  

proving or disproving stuff, philosophy, none of it matters

2017-04-04 17:06:23 UTC  

religion in humanity precedes agriculture

2017-04-04 17:06:28 UTC  

precedes any kind of social organization

2017-04-04 17:06:40 UTC  

religion is basically magical thinking

2017-04-04 17:06:41 UTC  

there's a good case for saying that humans only got together at all

2017-04-04 17:06:47 UTC  

"magical thinking" is real thinking

2017-04-04 17:06:52 UTC  

how is it real?

2017-04-04 17:07:00 UTC  

they're real thoughts that people had

2017-04-04 17:07:02 UTC  

attributing meaning and justification to various aspects of your life

2017-04-04 17:07:05 UTC  

but how is it real thinking?

2017-04-04 17:07:08 UTC  

it's how you live anyway, without realizing it

2017-04-04 17:07:31 UTC  

no, most people never used magical thinking, even in pre-historic times

2017-04-04 17:07:35 UTC  

in their dailyt life

2017-04-04 17:07:44 UTC  

the thing you are calling "magical thinking" doesn't exist

2017-04-04 17:07:47 UTC  

yes it does

2017-04-04 17:07:53 UTC  

no, it would be the same as delusion

2017-04-04 17:08:03 UTC  

magical thinking is a delusion

2017-04-04 17:08:12 UTC  

the term you refer to as "magical thinking" encompasses two things

2017-04-04 17:08:18 UTC  

being stupid and/or crazy

2017-04-04 17:08:28 UTC  

and considering the world an alive thing where life matters

2017-04-04 17:08:31 UTC  

or that matters in some way

2017-04-04 17:08:42 UTC  

no life matters

2017-04-04 17:08:53 UTC  

I think I should elaborate on matters

2017-04-04 17:08:54 UTC  

all life could die and the world would not care

2017-04-04 17:08:58 UTC  

it would keep on orbitting around the sun

2017-04-04 17:09:04 UTC  

yes, but mattering is not inconsistent with that

2017-04-04 17:09:08 UTC  

pagans were exceptionally fatalistic

2017-04-04 17:09:13 UTC  

which is slowly twirling around a black hole