Message from @fallot

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2017-04-08 16:06:03 UTC  

perhaps there is a bit of a conflation here between their art and how they are really as people?

2017-04-08 16:06:36 UTC  

for example I have a very "nice" bedside manner

2017-04-08 16:06:37 UTC  

doctors are also both rigid and conformist in terms of money

2017-04-08 16:07:07 UTC  

and I am really nice too, but not like how I present myself

2017-04-08 16:07:12 UTC  

probably due to the fact that doctors by default expect to be paid

2017-04-08 16:07:14 UTC  

and paid well

2017-04-08 16:07:36 UTC  

but above all, hospitals as environment are quite formative

2017-04-08 16:07:47 UTC  

that much is true I think, doctors expect to be remunerated to a certain extent

2017-04-08 16:08:00 UTC  

but they don't usually desire riches, more comfort in life

2017-04-08 16:08:07 UTC  

there is a minority that wants to get rich

2017-04-08 16:08:23 UTC  

like Exilarch here

2017-04-08 16:08:27 UTC  

he wants "independence"

2017-04-08 16:08:34 UTC  

yes, comfort

2017-04-08 16:08:36 UTC  

that isn't an uncommon motivation

2017-04-08 16:08:43 UTC  

in general, I'm more fond of doctors than not

2017-04-08 16:08:47 UTC  

comfort or lack of care, not worrying about it

2017-04-08 16:08:53 UTC  

I'm more frustrated by people who worship doctors and medicine

2017-04-08 16:09:06 UTC  

does anyone?

2017-04-08 16:09:14 UTC  

yeah

2017-04-08 16:09:20 UTC  

western society idolizes medicine

2017-04-08 16:09:36 UTC  

certainly, but I am having difficulty reducing it to an individual

2017-04-08 16:09:44 UTC  

TES is right

2017-04-08 16:10:00 UTC  

doctors are treated like holy saints

2017-04-08 16:10:07 UTC  

medical tv dramas are something that is exclusivelly western invention, and all the fascination with psychology fits within that as well

2017-04-08 16:10:10 UTC  

when in reality they are all whores on drugs vying for social status

2017-04-08 16:10:13 UTC  

that is why I hate my coworkers

2017-04-08 16:10:23 UTC  

medical dramas are all bullshit anyway, every single one of them

2017-04-08 16:10:26 UTC  

I do not even drink coffee and they are all out doing cocaine lines out of each others' buttholes

2017-04-08 16:10:28 UTC  

even medical documentaries are often bullshit

2017-04-08 16:10:41 UTC  

people consdier doctors *ideal* type of personality, somebody who should be entrusted even with *leading*the society

2017-04-08 16:11:01 UTC  

when in the past, they occupied the dignity of *professionals*

2017-04-08 16:11:03 UTC  

you mean the abstraction of "doctor" yes?

2017-04-08 16:11:15 UTC  

well, people project that onto individuals

2017-04-08 16:11:18 UTC  

well yes, but also skilled medical workers in general

2017-04-08 16:11:35 UTC  

and the individuals, receiving benefit from that both at an individual and group level, play into it as much as possible

2017-04-08 16:11:42 UTC  

being a doctor selects for two things, intelligence and conscientousness

2017-04-08 16:11:53 UTC  

the latter of which is easily feigned

2017-04-08 16:11:55 UTC  

and social climbing

2017-04-08 16:12:00 UTC  

yeah

2017-04-08 16:12:13 UTC  

feigned conscientiousness = comeptitive altruism and other social climbing

2017-04-08 16:13:15 UTC  

does it feel good to help people @Deleted User 57835c2c