referring to on the one hand a perception of doctors as angels

vs. the reality

I can't agree with that, doctors tend to be a bit off in the ways you expect for people who have undergone some selection for intelligence

for example doctors here will often be very much traditional in terms of "good customs" like asking you which part of the country do yours come from, if someone is your relative, and similar things that are considered old-fashioned

perhaps there is a bit of a conflation here between their art and how they are really as people?

for example I have a very "nice" bedside manner

doctors are also both rigid and conformist in terms of money

and I am really nice too, but not like how I present myself

probably due to the fact that doctors by default expect to be paid

and paid well

but above all, hospitals as environment are quite formative

that much is true I think, doctors expect to be remunerated to a certain extent

but they don't usually desire riches, more comfort in life

there is a minority that wants to get rich

like Exilarch here

he wants "independence"

yes, comfort

that isn't an uncommon motivation

in general, I'm more fond of doctors than not

comfort or lack of care, not worrying about it

I'm more frustrated by people who worship doctors and medicine

does anyone?

yeah

western society idolizes medicine

certainly, but I am having difficulty reducing it to an individual

TES is right

doctors are treated like holy saints

medical tv dramas are something that is exclusivelly western invention, and all the fascination with psychology fits within that as well

when in reality they are all whores on drugs vying for social status

that is why I hate my coworkers

medical dramas are all bullshit anyway, every single one of them

I do not even drink coffee and they are all out doing cocaine lines out of each others' buttholes

even medical documentaries are often bullshit

people consdier doctors *ideal* type of personality, somebody who should be entrusted even with *leading*the society

when in the past, they occupied the dignity of *professionals*

you mean the abstraction of "doctor" yes?

well, people project that onto individuals

well yes, but also skilled medical workers in general

and the individuals, receiving benefit from that both at an individual and group level, play into it as much as possible

being a doctor selects for two things, intelligence and conscientousness

the latter of which is easily feigned