Message from @The Enlightened Shepherd

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2017-04-09 16:43:22 UTC  

capitalism does nothing to protect against managerialism, and in fact prozak's aristocracy is essentially planning managerialism from the start

2017-04-09 16:43:30 UTC  

IT IS BASIC HUMAN TENDENCY TO EXCLUDE THOSE WHO ARE NOT EASY WINS

2017-04-09 16:43:37 UTC  

AN EASY WIN IS WHOEVER GETS ALONG WITH THE GROUP

2017-04-09 16:43:50 UTC  

HOW IS GROUP DEFINED? BY AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, EQUAL RIGHTS, ETC.

2017-04-09 16:44:00 UTC  

AND BY OFFICIAL MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND LICENSING

2017-04-09 16:44:05 UTC  

THUS YOU CREATE A MONOPOLY

2017-04-09 16:44:09 UTC  

AND HAND IT TO INCOMPETENTS

2017-04-09 16:44:17 UTC  

WHOSE ONLY REAL GOAL IS TO AVOID INFRINGING ON REGULATIONS

2017-04-09 16:44:21 UTC  

CAPITALISM IS THE OPPOSITE OF THAT

2017-04-09 16:44:29 UTC  

WHERE YOU ARE RIGHT: WE NEED MORE THAN AN ECONOMIC SYSTEM

2017-04-09 16:44:31 UTC  

THEN YOU GET IT WRONG

2017-04-09 16:44:39 UTC  

AND DECIDE THAT SOCIALISM WILL BE A PERFECT SYSTEM

2017-04-09 16:45:02 UTC  

nazi socialism was great

2017-04-09 16:45:11 UTC  

meanings are bigger than words, that's why you have to be rigorous with them and make sure you are on the same page with someone else

2017-04-09 16:45:17 UTC  

until your favorite eurasians and homosexual tea sippers ruined it

2017-04-09 16:45:18 UTC  

otherwise you end up arguing about the words

2017-04-09 16:45:20 UTC  

and not the meaning

2017-04-09 16:48:37 UTC  

The point with Mandarin conformity is that it was being built throug culture to work from bottom up

2017-04-09 16:48:40 UTC  

not other way arund

2017-04-09 16:49:00 UTC  

But Western mind cannot comprehend that, because Western mind only thinks in terms of mechanisms

2017-04-09 16:49:15 UTC  

There has to be a working formula on how to generate conformity

2017-04-09 16:49:32 UTC  

And if it doesnt exists, as it does not, then we will pretend it does

2017-04-09 16:49:37 UTC  

Like psychology for example

2017-04-09 16:50:06 UTC  

And since Westernism is all about joining the discourse and not asking questions, especially if they are concerned with long term outcomes

2017-04-09 16:50:18 UTC  

Then there are apparently no problems

2017-04-09 16:52:32 UTC  

People always forget how crazy things the West has performed in it's past

2017-04-09 16:53:02 UTC  

For 50 years treatment of psychically ill people all over west was being arranged according to a completely insane theory

2017-04-09 16:53:47 UTC  

they were being electrocuted and and psychiatriss all over tried to find out whether you have family inherited incestual sexual envy

2017-04-09 16:58:07 UTC  

its not completely insane, that

2017-04-09 16:58:19 UTC  

current psychiatry is just as bad really

2017-04-09 16:58:22 UTC  

in some ways, worse

2017-04-09 16:58:41 UTC  

current psychiatry is only good because it failed, so it doesn't attempt to contribute to the problem

2017-04-09 16:58:53 UTC  

well I wont derail you

2017-04-09 16:58:56 UTC  

then think about Behaviorism

2017-04-09 16:58:58 UTC  

with going down that track

2017-04-09 16:59:27 UTC  

It has to be the most stubborn and dogmatical surrender to worship of quantity in western scientific discourse

2017-04-09 17:13:20 UTC  

Hey prozak, what are you going to do about the fact that under capitalism everyone has a cost incentive to undercut and to deliver the cheapest, shoddiest product they can get away with? What is your traditionalist capitalism fix for the fact that food companies are incentivized to feed you dyed corn syrup instead of food, because it is vastly cheaper? How will market dynamics plus whatever interventions you propose fix that?

2017-04-09 17:14:11 UTC  

you're not accounting for the quality of the product delivered, what people are willing to accept, forces that act to enforce quality etc.

2017-04-09 17:14:16 UTC  

why would a traditionalist state regulated by culture etc. not be liable to be sold 10,000 hamburgers that are half soy?

2017-04-09 17:14:21 UTC  

de-industrialize food production