Message from @fallot

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2017-04-22 22:55:28 UTC  

I also don't think Russia today is an archetypal example of a continental idealistic nation, when i think of it, no nation is today

2017-04-22 22:55:48 UTC  

yes, Dugin is philoislamic

2017-04-22 22:56:03 UTC  

he is Eurasian after all

2017-04-22 22:56:19 UTC  

The vast majority of Muslims are not traditional anymore

2017-04-22 22:56:24 UTC  

As they gain literacy

2017-04-22 22:56:36 UTC  

They pick and choose like everyone else.

2017-04-22 22:57:05 UTC  

Compare Aceh to the rest of Indonesia

2017-04-22 22:57:12 UTC  

I like this essay by him but it rings slightly hollow

2017-04-22 22:57:14 UTC  

opportunistic

2017-04-22 22:57:15 UTC  

hahahahaha

2017-04-22 22:57:19 UTC  

They pretty much are fundamentalists and would just sack it

2017-04-22 22:57:26 UTC  

If the government fell

2017-04-22 22:57:35 UTC  

The rest saxkinf the fundamentalists who are unpopular.

2017-04-22 22:58:19 UTC  

Islam, just like Christianity, has passed the point of it's possibilities, this is the only thing that Evola perhaps didn't understand

2017-04-22 22:58:21 UTC  

Also most of the places were Islam thrived were never honest societies

2017-04-22 22:58:29 UTC  

nope

2017-04-22 22:58:31 UTC  

Which is unrelated to the religion

2017-04-22 22:58:47 UTC  

Both Christianity and Islam HAD traditionalist schools, however, these existed IN SPITE OF their non-traditional teachings, not thanks to

2017-04-22 22:59:01 UTC  

they were literally underground movements

2017-04-22 22:59:03 UTC  

what are you referring to

2017-04-22 22:59:08 UTC  

with traditionalist

2017-04-22 22:59:13 UTC  

Sufism, Bektashism, etc

2017-04-22 22:59:28 UTC  

Bektashism is heretical, it isn't Islam

2017-04-22 22:59:30 UTC  

That stuff isnt underground but describes religious practices.

2017-04-22 22:59:35 UTC  

In Christianity it's more difficult to distinguish, but basically look at gnostics

2017-04-22 22:59:39 UTC  

Sufism

2017-04-22 22:59:41 UTC  

you mean Tradition, the esoteric meaning

2017-04-22 22:59:55 UTC  

@fallot that's what mainstream sunnis think about all whoare not mainstream sunnis, thanks for info

2017-04-22 23:00:01 UTC  

Unless of course you are describing militant Sufiorders who behaved like western military orders

2017-04-22 23:00:10 UTC  

no, they are simply not muslims due to their beliefs and practices

2017-04-22 23:00:13 UTC  

Like the Templars and Teutonic Knights

2017-04-22 23:00:15 UTC  

there are some basics to Islam

2017-04-22 23:00:18 UTC  

Fallot

2017-04-22 23:00:22 UTC  

Are you a capitalist?

2017-04-22 23:00:23 UTC  

Just like alevis

2017-04-22 23:00:41 UTC  

Well I mean alawites

2017-04-22 23:00:47 UTC  

Depends on what that means @Hagel, I don't support evils that are linked to the word capitalism

2017-04-22 23:00:53 UTC  

Bektashi order was basically Mithraic order for Ottoman Muslims, and it possese striking similarities

2017-04-22 23:00:57 UTC  

Alawites only decided to become sort of outwardly Muslims in the 30s

2017-04-22 23:00:58 UTC  

but I'm for the basic human actions of buy and sell