Message from @fallot

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2017-04-24 19:21:22 UTC  

Dunno we'll have to go find him on his canuck island and ask

2017-04-24 20:48:38 UTC  

What nihilists know that everyone else denies is that language has no inherent meaning. Only when two people are both using a word to mean the same thing can the word have shared meaning, and otherwise you have two people talking to themselves and hoping the other can intuit what is being gestured.

2017-04-24 20:48:40 UTC  

completely incoherent

2017-04-24 20:48:51 UTC  

no inherent meaning, yet shared meaning possible

2017-04-24 20:49:03 UTC  

what this really means is that language sounds are arbitrary but meaning is not

2017-04-24 20:49:22 UTC  

so there would be a language at two levels

2017-04-24 20:51:18 UTC  

if the other can "intuit what is being gestured", doesn't that tell you anything?

2017-04-24 20:51:22 UTC  

anyway, never mind

2017-04-24 20:53:07 UTC  

why is this called conservatism? It isn't, it's a particular idealism of reality, a "realism"

2017-04-24 20:54:11 UTC  

just one big fart after that, no real case is made against either patriotism or theocracy

2017-04-24 20:55:30 UTC  

is leftism the egoism of the herd? I really don't think it is

2017-04-24 20:55:38 UTC  

Egoism = short termist

2017-04-24 20:55:49 UTC  

Leftism = long term committed destruction and perversion for its own sake

2017-04-24 20:56:35 UTC  

you say something @devolved I'm just going to end up ranting

2017-04-24 21:00:57 UTC  

I had this problem myself, not believing any real communication was possible, but now I know it is and how

2017-04-24 21:01:05 UTC  

I've only recently understood it too

2017-04-24 21:01:21 UTC  

there is little to no horizontal communication, true communication is vertical

2017-04-24 21:01:48 UTC  

Ionno

2017-04-24 21:01:55 UTC  

I figured it would piss you off

2017-04-24 21:01:57 UTC  

what you can offer someone else is them "intuiting what is being gestured"

2017-04-24 21:01:58 UTC  

it did

2017-04-24 21:02:30 UTC  

I'd be less mad if it was coherent, I can respect at some level valid answers which are wrong

2017-04-24 21:02:38 UTC  

such as the choice of lucifer

2017-04-24 21:02:58 UTC  

what I can't respect is this weird paralellism by certain godless people

2017-04-24 21:03:15 UTC  

where they are floating right below christians etc.

2017-04-24 21:03:22 UTC  

both unable to detach themselves and with a sneer on their face

2017-04-24 21:04:34 UTC  

this is nothing less than a disease of the heart

2017-04-24 21:04:43 UTC  

a spiritual sickness

2017-04-24 21:05:02 UTC  

also an illustration of how little / how much the intellect can serve

2017-04-24 21:05:02 UTC  

Preach brotha

2017-04-24 21:05:08 UTC  
2017-04-24 21:05:22 UTC  

can't, horizontal communication isn't possible

2017-04-24 21:05:24 UTC  

^_^

2017-04-24 21:05:27 UTC  

Ah

2017-04-24 21:05:40 UTC  

What's vertical communication then?

2017-04-24 21:05:59 UTC  

inspiration, receiving truth from the collective consciousness/God/whatever

2017-04-24 21:06:31 UTC  

what others can do, more or less realized ones, is to point people to a state of consciousness where they become receptive to inspiration

2017-04-24 21:06:41 UTC  

or become conscious of inspiration that has already affected them

2017-04-24 21:06:44 UTC  

Ah

2017-04-24 21:06:47 UTC  

"yes! that's right!"