Message from @MOS MAIORVM (AKA Sola)

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2017-05-08 22:16:49 UTC  

where is exilarch btw

2017-05-09 03:40:24 UTC  

@fallot If I recall right

2017-05-09 03:40:49 UTC  

there was a very serious and lengthy 10 year study that found a significant association with cheese consumption and cancer

2017-05-09 03:41:07 UTC  

More specifically casein

2017-05-09 05:17:33 UTC  

I ignore such studies @MOS MAIORVM (AKA Sola)

2017-05-09 05:18:02 UTC  

What I linked was to show capitulation

2017-05-09 05:18:41 UTC  

People have been fooled that rigourous studies are able to tell us the truth

2017-05-09 05:19:39 UTC  

A lot of similar claims require the evidence of decades minimum, consistently visible

2017-05-09 05:19:59 UTC  

Most studies in medicine esp are just trash

2017-05-09 05:20:28 UTC  

The best work was done earlier last century and little of it was based on studies

2017-05-09 05:20:31 UTC  

a lot of it is poor diet. good diets eating cheese

2017-05-09 05:20:39 UTC  

it's hard to just say CHEESE IS BAD

2017-05-09 05:21:07 UTC  

Cheese radiates goodness

2017-05-09 05:22:02 UTC  

Tried and tested principles always beat studies

2017-05-09 05:22:33 UTC  

This sickness in science extends beyond medicine

2017-05-09 05:23:12 UTC  

The last real breakthroughs in physics must have been like 1920

2017-05-09 05:23:15 UTC  

Or earlier

2017-05-09 05:23:39 UTC  

@fallot it was a 10 year study as I said

2017-05-09 05:23:45 UTC  

That's quite a long time

2017-05-09 05:23:59 UTC  

there may be more factors to it unaccounted for but the premise is definitely eye opening

2017-05-09 05:24:41 UTC  

If you study something that could take 10 years to show its effect you need to study it for much longer than that. Thank you for making me aware of it at least.

2017-05-09 05:24:56 UTC  

I'm open to the idea, though I'd of course like to see more research

2017-05-09 05:25:08 UTC  

Be careful with that

2017-05-09 05:25:22 UTC  

2 years ago I would have said similarly

2017-05-09 05:25:37 UTC  

I think the point was that a 10 year study is far more reliable than a 1 year study

2017-05-09 05:25:45 UTC  

it's similar to sample size

2017-05-09 05:25:46 UTC  

Is it?

2017-05-09 05:25:54 UTC  

Another semi fallacy

2017-05-09 05:25:59 UTC  

All these things

2017-05-09 05:26:07 UTC  

how is that a semi fallacy?

2017-05-09 05:26:30 UTC  

Are you proposing that a 2 week study is as reliable as a 10 year study under the same conditions?

2017-05-09 05:26:35 UTC  

Because ultimately the validity does not depend on how big or blind your study is

2017-05-09 05:26:36 UTC  

I find that doubtful

2017-05-09 05:26:46 UTC  

Hence semi

2017-05-09 05:26:50 UTC  

That's not true at all

2017-05-09 05:26:51 UTC  

Re what you said

2017-05-09 05:27:03 UTC  

It is trivially true

2017-05-09 05:27:12 UTC  

Its validity depends on your priors