is much clearer, sensible

the whole thing is a shitty version of yule just like the whole rest of the west is just a shitty version of Scandinavia

at the peak is illumination

so what

there were solistice celebrations and tree decorations outside of scandinavia

well the start was me linking a pic of an LDS temple in africa

which had this

and then you said it was something

and then we were led to this

yeah

so ultimately, I guess my apprehensions there are perfectly valid

"illumination" this is one of those post-englightenment buzzwords that represent nothing

well i have no problem with that tree except it's ugly with the fake tree

talk less @The Enlightened Shepherd

but they're in africa, so no firs

put a star of ishtar on top

we don't have to be scared of these symbols

as a great philosopher arnold schwarzeneger used to say "I don't do requests" @fallot

I agree, but we should understand what they represent

well you don't

and it is not simply about the symbolism itself

but that there seems to be a hidden hand/hands that employ this symbolism

https://www.google.com/search?q=star+of+bethlehem&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi68prh05DUAhWf3oMKHYf5CEoQ_AUICigB&biw=1455&bih=700

I mean I am down with inverted pentagrams and throwing the horns

and yet in certain contexts if I see them I will take pause

8 pointed star is common symbolism for the star of bethlehem

yeah well fuck the illuminati and luciferians

they don't own those symbols

is it?

i do

it is common yes

but that seems to me more like Sirius

a conflation basically

the 8 pointed star is the blazing star

If you look up history the catholics are terrible about ripping off other people's stuff and saying they did it

Christmas is just the best example

mormons should bring back more pagan stuff

they don't have enough tbh

I am quite down with bringing back pagan "stuff"

they table with muslims, what's the harm?

we need to start doing the solstice and equinox celebrations