Message from @fallot

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2017-08-12 23:54:36 UTC  

I like a track or two

2017-08-12 23:54:43 UTC  

neoclassical as a term is good

2017-08-12 23:54:49 UTC  

but it would end up encompassing metal as well

2017-08-12 23:54:50 UTC  

by this usage

2017-08-12 23:54:58 UTC  

what I'm saying is we need to differentiate post-metal music

2017-08-12 23:55:05 UTC  

from the wider term neoclassical

2017-08-12 23:55:27 UTC  

I think it ends up erasing the contribution of riff language to the basic elements of musicality of these acts

2017-08-12 23:55:42 UTC  

a lot of this synthwave stuff is post-metal too

2017-08-12 23:56:13 UTC  

what about middle period Ulver stuff like Shadows of the Sun and Perdition City

2017-08-12 23:56:19 UTC  

not heard it

2017-08-12 23:56:39 UTC  

@UOC I refer to that by "Electronic"

2017-08-12 23:56:41 UTC  

really

2017-08-12 23:56:49 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/346079611911667712/20799138_729379543915809_6766445758780981395_n.png

2017-08-12 23:56:53 UTC  

not a sufficiently descriptive term though

2017-08-12 23:58:19 UTC  

I'm just trying to triangulate the term for my own understanding

2017-08-12 23:58:28 UTC  

im not disputing or anything

2017-08-12 23:58:51 UTC  

I understand

2017-08-12 23:58:55 UTC  

was referring to "Electronic"

2017-08-12 23:59:21 UTC  

actually

2017-08-12 23:59:25 UTC  

why don't I just link you his own words

2017-08-12 23:59:27 UTC  

sec

2017-08-12 23:59:33 UTC  

Zyklon those tweets are crazy. Rubio said something similarly slimey

2017-08-13 00:00:10 UTC  

he cast the net wide for this term

2017-08-13 00:00:15 UTC  

note that it is encompassing metal music

2017-08-13 00:01:05 UTC  

I jumped into the convo because i have had similar thoughts about a certain conversation or communication between the forward edges of some genres

2017-08-13 00:01:13 UTC  

including metal

2017-08-13 00:01:14 UTC  

go on

2017-08-13 00:01:27 UTC  

Britain is dead.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/346080779454906368/20728111_479282309098479_3308889578448299805_n.png

2017-08-13 00:01:52 UTC  

well for example the increasing similarities between some "electronic" music like Aphex Twin and modern "classical" or "art" music like Karlheinz Stockhausen

2017-08-13 00:02:02 UTC  

or Philip Glass

2017-08-13 00:02:11 UTC  

who basically writes techno for piano

2017-08-13 00:02:11 UTC  

yeah I see what you mean

2017-08-13 00:02:15 UTC  

you're right too

2017-08-13 00:02:22 UTC  

but this gets pretty metaphysical

2017-08-13 00:02:55 UTC  

hah we don't have to get into it

2017-08-13 00:02:57 UTC  

the possible implications are vast

2017-08-13 00:05:04 UTC  

get into your ideas @UOC

2017-08-13 00:05:11 UTC  

want to hear the gist

2017-08-13 00:06:08 UTC  

well mostly i'm interested in the direction of the flow. I think some stuff comes into the genres from art - I think Aphex Twin has listened to Stockhausen

2017-08-13 00:06:45 UTC  

but some stuff I think is the other way around- for example I think that Philip Glass has borrowed some ideas about repetition-as-structure from early electronic guys like Moroder